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        06-16-2013, 08:13 PM
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    Good idea! I started her on her Probios again this morning at your suggestion. It helped her tons in those first few weeks, so hopefully they'll help again. She still has mushy poo, but it isn't excessive or liquidy (its still just 'mushy' right now) so I'd hate to have the vet out for it. I put a call in to him yesterday and he said if she isn't pooping normally in a few days, call him again- but otherwise just keep checking her temp (its fine) and offer her as much water as she'll take. I've been mixing powdered Gatorade in her water and salt into her feed, so hopefully it will help. I'm not sure why she's having mushy poo in the first place though. Maybe her feed is just too rich for her? I've tried to keep the levels as balanced as possible, but who knows?

    As other news, I'm going to be out of town most of this week at a leadership camp, so BO will be caring for Kenzie herself. Hopefully that goes smoothly...fingers crossed. I'm hesitant to leave her but I really do just need a break (actually, this camp is going to be a lot of work, but....whatever xD its in OK so I'm pretty excited.) and I have her feed all mixed so it can just be soaked and tossed in her bucket every day. After I get back though, both she and Sour have an appointment with a chiro next Wednesday. I need to use the fund to pay for about half of Kenzie's bill but the rest I'm going to cover myself. The chiro gave me a good deal for the two of them and BO was ok with it after I approached it as 'Well I'm already having the chiro out for MY horse, so might as well...right?' so score one for Endiku! XD

    I also FINALLY sent out the money order for that halter on Friday so hopefully I'll get it in the next two weeks or so :) sorry it took so long but it should look GREAT on her!
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        06-16-2013, 08:26 PM
    She may be getting too much concentrate ration. You could try increasing her grass hay and cutting back on some of the other stuff a bit. Also, does she have plenty of salt? Sometimes if they get low on salt it will give them the squirts.
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        06-16-2013, 08:44 PM
    If she's eating dandelions that can cause mushy poo. Any time you have to doctor her and it's a fight, tie a thick rope around her neck and catch her hind ankle in another thick soft rope and run it thro the neck rope. Shorten the hoof rope just enough to bring the leg forward and the toe only and inch or two off the ground. She can't fight much when only three legs are operating. It's called a scotch hobble. It's a good idea to get her used to it any way.
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        06-20-2013, 01:28 PM
    Saddlebag's idea is great for a humane and safe restraint. Never tie off the rope on the leg, either to the foot or to the neck rope. Hold the end in your hand so if you drop it, all is back to normal. The scotch hobble also teaches the horse not to struggle if the foot is trapped - invaluable if they get messed up in polo wraps come undone, or a foot through a hay net hole, or into wire. It could save a life....
        06-22-2013, 09:27 PM
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    I just got back this afternoon and I'm a bit sick and exhausted, but here is a bit of an update for you all. I'll get some pictures tomorrow or Monday for a pic update :)

    The probios seemed to help at least a little, she's been on them for a week now and her poo is almost to normal consistency. I might try lowering her grain intake though, by just a bit, since I feel like its the least important of her foods. She needs the beet pulp and as much hay as I can stuff into her (she's getting 5 lbs alfalfa pellets + ad lib grass hay and skimpy pasture still) and the only other thing she's getting is the supplement (UltraShine) and 5 g of probios.

    I think she's gained a little more weight in the past week or two though, which is good. I'm really only seeing ribs now if she stretches out, not when she's just standing around. BO said she got complimented for her shiny coat and cute personality when some people came to tour the farm which is exciting, considering that we were having to practically hide her from others to keep people from seeing her ridiculously skinny, sickly self and now people are finally beginning to see what she CAN be!

    That's a good suggestion, Saddlebag. We hobble train (traditional figure eight cotton hobbles) all of our horses so I was planning to have someone help me train her to do that eventually (we usually wait until they're almost ready to start under saddle work) but that sounds quite handy for restraint. We did have to twitch her once when she needed her ear to be cleaned, so that we could avoid sedation again, but otherwise I've just sort of gone with 'slow and steady' to get things done. Sometimes that isn't an option though!

    God willing though, I'm hoping she won't need a reason to be restrained again for a long time. She isn't great about being trimmed, especially with her back feet, but she isn't dangerous, just reluctant (yes, we're still working on getting her easier to handle with that), she worms easily, and she's 99% over the head shyness. Still twitches and flinches if I touch her damaged ear, but nothing drastic!
        06-22-2013, 10:22 PM
    Green Broke
    Originally Posted by Endiku    
    and BO was ok with it after I approached it as 'Well I'm already having the chiro out for MY horse, so might as well...right?' so score one for Endiku! XD
    I just do not understand this??? Why would the BO have a problem with this? She is not paying, you are, right?? I just don't get it. Seems like she is taking a free ride. This went from lets save Kenzie to BO taking advantage. I only visit from time to time on this thread because I just cannot take it any more. I feel for you and Kenzie but the rest is hard to take.

    EDIT to say, please do not be offended. I just needed to say how I felt. I think you are great!
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        06-22-2013, 11:22 PM
    I agree, it's just so frustrating that you aren't free to do exactly what Kenzie needs, especially since you are paying so much out of your own pocket for this little horse. Please, don't take any of it as being directed at you in any way, just frustrated at the BO!


    I soooo wish I could have worked out bringing her up here.

    Hang in there darling, just do the best you can.
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        06-23-2013, 02:55 PM
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    I feel your guys' pain, I assure you. This really isn't something that I feel ok about either...I'm literally paying for everything but where she stays and her hay, but what else can I do? I know Kenzie won't get what she needs if I 'abandon' her and stop paying. BO won't care if I don't pay for the feed and extra stuff, she doesn't care now that I do, so long as it doesn't interfere with anything she is doing. It doesn't feel right to be paying so much for a filly I will never have free choices with, but it also doesn't feel right to not try to make a difference for her. I doubt Kenzie would be neglected or abused in any way by BO but she WOULD immediately go onto a diet of only grass hay, possibly some pasture (most of the horses are dry lotted. I had to fight to get her into a pen that still has grass) and 4-5 lbs of Safe Choice.

    Without trying to sound like I'm the 'savior' at the farm, I'll just say that this is something I've done for multiple horses here, and that if it wasn't for HF and research that I've done, the horses would have it worse than they do. When I first came out there the horses were fed cattle or grass hay, whichever was found first, and sweet feed. Safe choice is a big improvement from that, but its still not enough for a growing yearling, and its not good enough for Kenzie.

    Is it wrong for BO to have Kenzie? You be the judge of that. Undoubtedly Kenzie needs more than she will get from BO, but she also would likely not be alive if it weren't for her taking Kenzie. The rehoming facility was already ready to put her down at the first diagnosis of EHV and lameness. Because BO provides the absolute necessities to her horses (and none of them look ill, but remember, they're all adults in their prime, and most are QH, minis, or crossbreds that are easy keepers) I have NO legal backbone behind me if I were to try to do something about it...the horses get hay, feed, water, shelter, and farrier care (though not very good farrier care, I must say).

    I'm really just in a situation where there isn't anything else I can do but provide what I can. Its stressful, tiring, and sometimes I worry about what happens when I can't provide any more, but I've had to just sort of put it partially out of my mind because I was literally making myself sick with worry, and worry doesn't help Kenzie.

    Honestly I'm still wracking my mind trying to find a way to afford to take her, but I just can't unless I find someone who is willing to privately board her for me. Every public stable that I've found which is willing to let me work off part of my board is just too far away for me to go out twice a day and work 3-4 hours a day, (40+ minutes away) and the barns, even the shabby ones, in my area, cost at least $200 with no turn out AT ALL and me doing all of my own work. I just don't see how it would work. My hours have been cut again where I work, I don't have a car, and I'm about to start college classes and my senior year which is going to cost me. I'm literally out of ideas :/
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        06-23-2013, 03:33 PM
    Green Broke
    I really feel for you. I just see this ending in heartbreak because some day it will end. You cannot go on doing what you are forever. I guess we can keep praying for a miracle. Cause I believe they can happen!!!

    Oh I just had an idea. Is there any way that the BO would at least make you half owner of Kenzie?? I mean, that's the least she can do since you are doing everything anyway and spending your money. That way you will have a say in what happens to her in the future???
        06-23-2013, 03:39 PM
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    It might be possible, but I'm just not sure since I am a minor. My parents are very much against me taking on another horses, and they would have to sign for me unless I waited until my birthday in December, when I turn 18.

    Honestly I don't see half ownership working well with this particular woman though, because she and I do not see eye to eye at all. :/

    I have her back to the point of being willing to consider selling Kenzie again, but only locally, and she doesn't want to do any of the work. I'm VERY hesitant to do anything though because of the mess that was created last time that I tried to help sell/rehome Kenzie..
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