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post #1 of 13 Old 04-22-2011, 09:05 PM Thread Starter
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Kind of health related: How to ditch a boarder due to poor care?

I have a boarder with a lovely QH gelding that she cannot or will not care for properly. He gets good food with me of course and she buys him hoof and MSM supplements, but she won't have a good vet do his teeth, won't have a good vet examine him for lameness (he's seriously got something wrong, looks like a stiffle to me, or hock), and she wouldn't have the vet give him shots when he was out for coggins (claims she was going to give them herself, but I haven't seen the empty vials yet...).

About his lamenes. I used him as a lesson horse for a while, but I could tell something was "off" right away. I used exercise and supplements to improve him, but he quit getting any better, so I discontinued him in our lesson program. He has a mild/moderate club in his left front. When you look at his hind, the right hind quarter muscle that runs down the back of his hip is twice as big as the other side. His left front and right hind do not stride as out as far as the opposing legs. He is VERY hard to pick up the left lead, even on the lunge on a small circle. He's not "lame" in the normal sense of the word, just "wrong" in his movement. I paid for half the cost of a visit from my chiropractor who is also a vet and she said his back/neck/hips looked okay, just normal reactions for a horse that was used in a lesson program. She suggested x-rays of the stiffle and hock on the right hind and a second opinion by a better farrier on the feet. The horse owner did not follow through.

Last time my vet was out for spring shots/coggins, she agreed to coggins but nothing else. I had my vet check his teeth anyway, and he said it appeared the horse had never had his teeth done (he's 10 yrs old). He gets a lot of food as compared to my other hard working horses and just barely keeps his weight on. He's 14.2h and only ridden 2-3 times a month. He really shouldn't need hardly any grain...

I had to go up on my board price due to a serious hike in hay prices. I only raised board $25, from $275 to $300, which is still relatively cheap for our area. She contacted me last week saying she was going to move her horse in May. Thanks for the 30 day notice, but at this point, I'd just like her gone. I have one girl ready to fill her spot as soon as I say go, and three more horses behind her on a waiting list. Today she's out and says she's still unsure about the move. The first place wasn't what she wanted, but she says she's still looking. I already gave her a list of possible barns, but she wants something close, with trail access, that's cheap. Ain't gonna happen...

So, I want her gone by May 5th. Do I tell her as much or wait and see? I told her I need to know ASAP and she seemed a bit emotional today, so no clue what's going on in her life right now, but really, I just don't care. I don't like this gal. She never brushes her horse after she rides, she only brushes him before if he is really dirty and only where the saddle goes. I have never seen her pick his feet. She just uses him as a social tool, so she can hang out with other trail riders. It drives me nuts.

Any advice? Really I just wanted to vent . I don't gossip with other boarders or people who may know her or her friends, so I needed somewhere to spill it .
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post #2 of 13 Old 04-22-2011, 09:44 PM
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I would just tell her she needs to have her horse out by may 5th. I have a boarded horse that has health issues so needs to be on grass in summer.
Iam limited for pasture so i told her owner late feb she needed to find some where else to pasture her for the summer and needs to have her horse out by april 30th. If she doesnt have her out for every day the horse is still at my place it will be 10 dollars a day paid up front before horse leaves my property. The owner and her horse are a pain in the neck i will be glad when they are both gone.
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post #3 of 13 Old 04-22-2011, 10:01 PM
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I would just tell her that she already gave her notice, you have someone coming in the day after, & she needs to be gone on the day she said would.

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post #4 of 13 Old 04-22-2011, 10:30 PM
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I agree. if you have a waiting list, and she gave you notice. tell her she needs to be gone by that day. If she wasn't 100% sure she wanted to move then she shouldn't have given you notice. its common sence.

uge, i would hate seeing that everyday. But sometimes theres nothing you can do for a horse, its there owners responsability. i'm soo glad at the barn I board at all the horses are very well taken care of, and we all help eachother out. if one of the other horses needs his feet sprayed off (muds really bad atm) or had a cut that needs cleaning etc etc i have no problem tending to it without being asked, and i know that the other boarders would do the same for me/my horse if i couldn't get out. I consider myseld extremly lucky, but sadly i know a few barns around here that arn't like that. everybody just cares about there horse thats it. I saw a horse with a bad case of founder out with the herd in an EXTREMLY muddy padock. bah. okay, sorry i just needed to vent to. haha
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post #5 of 13 Old 04-22-2011, 10:38 PM
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I agree with what everyone has said above! The place Im keeping Rodeo is a decent place. The barn is really nice! Pastures are big, although muddy, and flooded right now, they look like they could be gorgeous with some nice weather! Stalls are cleaned everyday, so I cant complain. But, I seem to be the only one out there everyday with my horse. There is a husband/wife that have a very hectic job, so they only go out to ride their two boys on the weekends, as for the rest of them, I have only met them once since I have had Rodeo out there which hasnt been quite 3 months yet.

I have gone out there all sorts of times throughout the days, and yet still dont see anyone! I just done understand why you would want a horse, and pay all the money and what not if you arent even going to go see it. Doesnt make sense to me.

Sorry about my rambling, just had to vent a little :) Good Luck though!! Hope everything works out for the best!
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post #6 of 13 Old 04-22-2011, 10:59 PM
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Simple. Tell her that she gave her notice, and her place has been filled, and that she has to be out by May 5. Put it in writing so you have evidence, maybe something like:

RE: Notice of Departure

Dear Princess Peach,

As per our conversation on April _, 2011, this letter is confirming your Notice of Departure. Pertaining to this conversation, your horse must be moved on or before May 4, 2011 or you may face penalty as your spot has been guaranteed to another.

Thank you for your consideration and I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors.


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post #7 of 13 Old 04-24-2011, 11:25 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks everyone, that's what I was thinking too.

Found out yesterday that she has a membership to a quite expensive gym/club, yet somehow can't afford a $25 increase in her board, or to get her horse's teeth floated... Ugh!

I don't know if she has an individual or family membership. It's $300 to join as a individual and is $83 a month. Family memberships are $500 joining fee and $123 a month, plus tax for all fees.
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I had a similar situation and I have a standard of care clause in my boarding agreement that states:
(a)If medical treatment is needed, the Stable will call the Owner. In the event the Owner is unavailable; the Stable has the authority to secure emergency veterinary care totaling $_______________ in fees. However, the Stable has no responsibility to pay for such care and is authorized to arrange billing on the Owners behalf.

(b)The Owner guarantees that the said horse(s) is properly vaccinated, sound, healthy and has no other medical conditions than listed above and that the horse(s) is not contagious of any diseases. The Owner agrees to pay any incurring cost of care or treatment in affect an illness occurs to said horse(s) or said horse(s) infect other animals.

(c)The Owner agrees to abide by the Stable's standard of care or be charged for services deemed necessary to care for the horse such as, but not limited to extra feed, hay, worming or ordinary veterinary care. The Stable will give notice before services are rendered at the expense of the owner.

Its worked out well! If they want to do their own shots that's fine but they need to produce a receipt by XX date or I will have the vet do it at the next visit. Same for coggins, farrier ect...

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post #9 of 13 Old 04-25-2011, 01:29 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks! That's a great clause. I'll add that to my boarding agreement for future boarders for sure. I have the emergency care in there already, but not the routine care.
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post #10 of 13 Old 04-25-2011, 01:49 AM
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I completely agree with others, she gave notice, and you have already filled her spot.

But what will you do if she doesn't move her horse on that date? I think you need to have it in writing in a certified letter that you are expecting her to move. If she does not, will you take the steps needed to kick her out?
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