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    11-18-2012, 07:28 PM
It is.
How is he living currently, stalled with turnout?
All out would be better for him, but a diet paddock, not pasture, obviously.
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    11-18-2012, 07:29 PM
Green Broke
He is out 12 hours, in 12 hours. :/
I live in WI and the dirt lots get torn up/hard in the winter.

I don't think pasture board is an option, I think it is full right now.
    11-18-2012, 07:38 PM
Well, 12 and 12 is good, considering the weather. Pastureboard I wouldn't consider for a long time, so I'd try to work on a dry lot solution for the summer. Too bad you are so far away from me....I have room and 5 acres dry lot....
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    11-18-2012, 07:40 PM
Green Broke
<sigh and banging head> I just deleted my entire post

EquiPride is a top dress that's a complete supplement. That is also what ration balancers are, except most of those have grain in them. You would be doubling your horse's needs if you fed both.

Horse equine ? EquiPride and EquiLix

You will see "distillers grains" in the ingredients. That's perfectly fine. It means the whiskey makers took all the sugars & starches from the corn, then re-sold the "dried" corn to feed makers.

See if the lady with the EquiPride will sell you ten pounds. That should last around 16 days??? And give you enough time to see if your horse will adjust to it. Hard keepers can have rice bran added to deflect the taste; easy keepers can have one measuring cup of timothy pellets added.

EquiPride is something that More is NOT better". It says to feed ten ounces daily (five ounces twice a day). Stick to that and no more. Buy yourself a plastic measuring cup from WalMart that has ounces and cup increments on it so you don't overfeed. Believe me ten ounces a day is all it takes.
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    11-18-2012, 09:16 PM
Green Broke
On another forum, someone suggested 'Remission' by Animed to me. Thoughts on this?
    11-18-2012, 09:25 PM
I think I mentioned it when I suggested to ask Doc if it was possiple without the thyroid Med....I would ask if it's ok with the Med together.
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    11-18-2012, 09:37 PM
Green Broke
I already started him on the l-thyroxine that day. :/ It's making him Bajiggity.
    11-18-2012, 09:44 PM
And your vet says he might have to stay on it forever......
I would seriously ask if it was possible to try with an IR supplement.
    11-18-2012, 10:03 PM
Green Broke
JMHO but I really disagree with "forever" on the Thyrol-L. That is old school --- 20 years ago old school

Here's a veterinary website that you could possibly call them and ask about "forever".

Equine Metabolic Syndrome

Where it says in part:

DRUG THERAPY- Most horses or ponies with EMS can be effectively managed by controlling their diet, instituting an exercise program, and limiting or eliminating access to pasture. However, there are times when these strategies will not improve the situation fast enough to prevent additional episodes of laminitis. In these situations, drug therapy is warranted to lower the likelihood of subsequent laminitis episodes that could cause permanent damage to the feet. Weight loss can be accelerated and insulin sensitivity improved by administering levothyroxine sodium (Thyro LŪ, Lloyd, Inc., Shenandoah, Iowa) in the feed at a dosage of 48 mg /day for 3 to 6 months, which is equivalent to 4 teaspoons (tsp) per day.
When levothyroxine treatment is discontinued, do not stop abruptly. Horses should be weaned off the drug by lowering the dosage to 24 mg (2 tsp)/day for 2 weeks and then 1 tsp (12 mg)/day for 2 weeks.

I would not run my vet thru the cheese shredder but simply say you aren't comfortable with his "forever" determination and others with EMS or IR horses have told you their understanding is that Thyro-L is short-term only.

You're not out anything but a phone call and I would also add that your horse is now "bajiggity" since starting the drug. Nice word, by the way, I'm going to steal it, if that's ok

EDITED TO ADD: almost forgot, Medi-vet has a warning on their purchase site: https://www.medi-vet.com/prod-Thyro_...wder-4390.aspx

Warning: Administer with caution to animals with clinically significant heart disease, hypertension or other complications for which a sharply increased metabolic rate might prove hazardous. Use in pregnant mares has not been evaluated.
    11-18-2012, 10:12 PM
Green Broke
He said 'forever' because he was worried about him gaining it all back when I phase him off of it...that is all. I will discuss backing him off when/if he loses weight.

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