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        08-31-2009, 09:56 PM
    lame hero -*** updated video!

    Last week I posted a video of Hero for critique alot of people said he looked off - so I gave him a weeks rest.
    Last week

    Just a quick background - I never lunged Hero - he had very bad trusting issues. I tried lunging him so many times he wouldnt budge but this video just shows he sorta trusts me more...kinda lol

    I know its hard to see but I don't think he looks off anymore?? I was thinking it was his right front - most of the video is going left...soon as we changed to the right he froze up??

    Anyways let me know what you think! Its a miracle I got him move this much!
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        09-01-2009, 07:34 AM
    No opinions wether or not I can ride my horse ?
        09-01-2009, 09:23 AM
    I couldn't tell on the video if he has improved or not. His and your lungeing skills need to be worked on for me to see anything on that. He was off balance and confused. Tip: keep your shoulders pointed at his hip/butt. He will not move forward when you are directed at his side or shoulder.

    Maybe you need to have another video of you riding him. Doesn't have to be as long and fancy as the first one.
        09-01-2009, 10:22 AM
    Yeah I know I never really had any training experience with lunging since this is my first horse, but he looks a lot better then when I first tried lunging him.
    I would stand centered pointed the whip at his butt and my shoulders and he would just swing around and face me over and over and over again or he would frantically back up and grunt.
        09-01-2009, 07:47 PM
    You don't point the whip at his butt. If I were you I wouldn't try to lunge him again without someone who can teach you and him. It's actually much easier to teach the horse than the person.
        09-01-2009, 09:03 PM
    Sorry I ment shoulder. And I didnt use a whip
    I started out slow with Hero WITH someone who has experience and he didnt budge..
    I started really close pushing out his shoulder with the end of the lunge line, he always turned in and faced me even when standing right there.

    What I have ben doing to get him moving standing facing his butt while im standing at his shoulder and taping it as soon as he moves I move with him and he then gets the hint to move out.

    I know I still need work I was just trying to keep him going
        09-01-2009, 11:20 PM
    Originally Posted by NorthernMama    
    You don't point the whip at his butt. If I were you I wouldn't try to lunge him again without someone who can teach you and him. It's actually much easier to teach the horse than the person.
    I gotta agree with this. You cannot teach a horse what you don't know.
        09-02-2009, 01:25 AM
    You get ahead of his driveline alot, which is why he stops; he's confused as to whether you want him to 'go' or 'stop'. An easy way to remember your proper position is to simply keep your eyes on his flank; if you are ahead or behind his flank, you are in the wrong position, and you will confuse your horse.

    Another thing, when retraining, or training a horse to longe is to keep the line short, until he understands 'go' and 'stop' and 'switch directions', this way you can guide the line easier without confusing him.

    As far as getting him to go, position yourself slightly to the offside of his shoulder, point your hand in the direction you want him to go, click, and with the whip or extra line if he doesn't move off, direct it at his hip.

    Clinton Anderson's Downunder Horsemanship book has good tips on how to get a horse to longe.

    As far as riding, he doesn't look 'off' to me, the first vid he looked slightly off on the left front, but he doesn't seem to favor it in the second video. I'd just take it slow for a while.
        09-02-2009, 08:00 AM
    Thanks for the tips!!
    I'll work on my body but I wasnnt focusing on that. Hero didnt move out when I did it the proper way - my friend who knows what she was doing even tried getting him to lunge and he didnt budge.
    I just found a method to get him out and moving just for the video to determine if he is still lame - not lunging skills lol

    We tried working him in a tight circle and working with his shoulder but he would always turn in and in and in, I found out he usually gets moving if I give him slack.

    I'll work with proper positioning once he gets used to actually moving out for me, he was just bieng so stubborn and turning in, backing up, rearing
    Even with a experience person

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