Originally Posted by 5cuetrain
One year of pain to recover is a lot to ask. I don't think any rotation over 5 degrees can be corrected back to 100%. How to determine the percentage of recovery 50%? 70%? Is subjective at best
I agree that I allowing a horse to be in pain for anything like long term, let alone a year is not acceptable. But with the right treatment & right level of protection(eg boots, pads), they can generally be made comfortable pretty quickly.
I also agree that it was an error for me to say anything about 'vast majorities', as there's no real way of knowing that. Especially given that agreement tho, I'm interested to know how you have come to think any rotation over 5 degrees is incurable? That is obviously incorrect to me, even just from personal experience. Perhaps it's that you have only experienced conventional type treatments? Perhaps, as much of the info, research, testing, which has led to approaches such as I use are quite recent(I've only been doing this for a little over 10 years), you may not have learned or experienced that side as yet?
What I meant & should have put clearer
was the vast majority of horses that I and others that I know have dealt with. I have personally only lost one horse to founder. That was a 27yo with sole penetration, worn pedal bone & suspected cushings before his owner found me. I've dealt with many horses at many levels of founder & rotation, including a few who were so far gone they had sole penetration. There are also HEAPS of examples on the internet & if you contact the AANHCP & associated type organisations.
My donkey(who the 'experts' had said had OK feet for a donk
) had sole penetration by the time I started learning all this, and the fronts of his pedal bones on the front feet were actually behind the vertical!
This approach was a 'last ditch' effort before I put the 24yo down, for apparent arthritis in his knees & fetlocks. His feet never became fantastic by any means(I was also a beginner then & likely made many mistakes), but he was padded full time initially to keep him comfortable, soon off painkillers(which he'd been on for a year previously) & happily running around in the paddock unpadded within a few months. It did take over a year to correct the rotation completely & get the coffin bone back to near ground parallel, but he spent the last decade of his life sound & happy.
Most horses seem to be more comfortable and happy with a job to do. They respond to it and make it a part of their lives--kind of like us. I've had many of old girls and boys who wanted to work at 30 years old and didn't like retirement one bit.
Yes, agree that horses can get rather bored & sour if left in a paddock no matter how cushy & comfortable, whether retired or not. Actually not just horses - brings to mind a quote that went something like...'We act as if comfort & happiness were the most important things, but all that really counts is having something to be enthusiastic about.'
I also agree that 'work' can be better for them from a health perspective - the more low-stress exercise the better. But it depends on the paddock setup, lifestyle, company, etc. as to whether they should get bored, too sedentary, whatever. And with adequate protection, even only 'paddock sound' horses can get out & about.