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    02-19-2009, 07:11 PM
My horses were getting fed Purina and they were doing great on it. Vega, which is on purina's horsemen's edge is doing fantastic on it. Never had a problem with craziness or anything. In fact I think they've actually been calmer and easier to work with.
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    02-19-2009, 08:03 PM
Originally Posted by Peggysue    
I am 40 years old and have NEVER not owned at least one horse normally two or three ..

I have three years of Equine Studies in COLLEGE, as well as three years of SOLID personal research on feeds and such

I feed Kent's Horsego32 and free choice hay or pasture

I have NEVERhad luck with ANY purina product normally it has made my horses CRAZY hyper
Why the need for caps?????

I've also gone to college and have done my own solid personal research on what my animals eat.

If you read the kent feed label that you use it also list "wheat middlings and distilers dried grains with soluables" . So I guess my points is show me a pelleted feed that has zero by-product's in it?

I've used Kent products in the past and had good results with it but need to feed more pounds of it than I do with the strategy to keep up with my horses need.

I'm sorry you didn't have luck with purina in the past.
    02-19-2009, 08:25 PM
I am against unspecified ingredients not listed ingredients ... you have me confused with L2R

All of the kent proucts I have seen and used are fixed formula .. where as the only three fixed formulas that purina offers is Ultium, and the two Enrich products.

College for what is the question?

Stratgy is 27% NSC by private testing and has had violations on formulation changes :) I just can't find those inspections .. these crazy things are actually HARD to find

My CAPS is stressing a point not yelling easier for me then bold or underline

Min amount of Stratgy you should be feeding is 4lbs
Min on any dynasty product is 3lbs and on dynasty show which is what I was on before a ration balancer I fed 3lbs and had over weight horses :)
    02-19-2009, 08:39 PM
Sorry I confused you with L2R on the by-product comment.

I went to college and had an applied science degree and was a paramedic for 5 years, so we had tons classes on health as you might guess. Personally i've been involved in my animals food labels after my dog came down with many allergies, one being wheat. I've spend lots of my time over the past 3 years researching dog foods and have spent over the past 5 years researching specific foods for horses. I also have like I said over 25 years of personal experience in feeding different feeds.

Then about 3.5 years ago my friend purchasd a horse that has multiple allergies, the biggest being corn, oats, beet pulp and wheat. Talk about reading tons and tons of literature.

I've also found that in dog food a major filler they use is beet pulp and that as i've stated above is a huge allergy causer in those that are sensative to it.

I also fed dynasty pro before I switched to the stradegy. I like both products but I had to feed more of the dynasty than I do the purina.

My horse is not the norm. I'll start of with he's perfectly healthy, his teeth are great, he's wormed very regularly. He is 17.1 hands tall and still growing. He is fed 3 large flakes of hay 2x a day, about 3.5 lb of strategy 2x a day, he gets either a large flake of alfalfa hay or a scoop of alfalfa pellets or cubes plus about a 1.5 lb of safe choice.

There is no way he'd get by on just hay or a ration balancer. I work him hard and show heavily and this is what I found works best for him.

Now I do have a super easy keeper, 1 flake of hay and 1/2 scoop of oats 2x a day. I'd much wrather just feed him.
    02-19-2009, 10:00 PM
You cant' say that .. he may be that hard of a keeper BECAUSE of the sugars and starches in the feed

Stratgey is average of 24% NSC so .24lbs of sugars and starches per lb of feed so .24 X 7 = 1.68 lbs of sugars and starches in his FEED alone not counting what he is getting elsewhere.

Let me see if I can find my pictues again
    02-19-2009, 10:06 PM
This is Handsome Ransome on 10bs of Equine SEnior a day with free choice hay

Same horse with roached mane (don't ask) three weeks later on 1lb Progressive Pro Advantage Grass formula and 1lb alfalfa pellets with free choice hay/pasture

Ransome NOW on 1 lbs Kent Horsego32 and 1lb alfalfa pellets and free choice hay
    02-19-2009, 10:07 PM
I've fed 100's of horses, 1000's of cattle, 1000's of hogs, Purina products the past 40 plus years and their feed has never killed one of mine I can't think of 1 reason to stop feeding their products. Their feeds killed more animals then any other brand. Could very well be their feeds also fed more animals then any other brand. That's like saying more Holsteins are milked then any other breed, pretty much stands to reason since their the #1 dairy breed.
    02-19-2009, 10:11 PM
Why feed a feed that is killing when you can go with a BETTER quality company that test EVERY load of ingredients for every batch of feeds... and you are paying MORE for less
    02-19-2009, 10:14 PM
I'll stick to the strategy but gotta say this board is interesting :)
Im an Equine/Sociology major myself. Haven't taken too much nutrition yet though
    02-19-2009, 10:16 PM
I don't feed a feed that is killing my livestock I never have.

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