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    06-29-2009, 12:41 AM
  #11
Green Broke
1/4 to 1/2 cup is good. Up to 1 cup for weight gain or hard keepers.
     
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    06-30-2009, 09:13 PM
  #12
Foal
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Originally Posted by luvs2ride1979    
For "grain" I feed mine 1/2 scoop of Alfalfa pellets (3 qt scoop, about 1.5 lbs) with flax and Nutri-Plus supplement. I use the flax because we do not have any grazing (hfresh grass has Omega 3's, but hay does not). You could skip that part and do just the hay pellets and supplement. It makes a well rounded diet without the sugar and starch! If you find any losing weight, you can increase the hay pellets. During the winter, feed plenty of grass hay and add in the flax.
I have been dying to take my horses off Strategy. Your feeding regime is the very combination that I have thought about. Alfalfa seems like the best thing for horses, but with the pellet form does this mean we don't have to worry about blister beetles? Do you have to soak the alfalfa pellets? Why do feed companies poison our horses with starch and sugar anyway?
     
    06-30-2009, 09:32 PM
  #13
Weanling
I have a feeding program very similar to Luvs2Ride and it has gone much better than it every has with feed.

Picky eaters suddenly gain appetites, hard keepers become easy keepers, feet get harder, coats get better, horses are all quiet.....

I do feed a lot of grass hay with it, I personally soak my pellets. I have one that eats too fast and tends to choke if they aren't soaked, and I find that they all suck down the supplements better when the pellets are soaked and set for a minute. Most of the horses can eat them without them being soaked, that one horse just has me paranoid about it. If I had a lot of grass, I would feed less hay, but south FL isn't known for its lush green pastures......
     
    06-30-2009, 10:09 PM
  #14
Weanling
How much do you know to feed as far as the alfalfa pellets go? Also the only ground flax I could find was at TSC and was $40 is that about right?
     
    06-30-2009, 10:17 PM
  #15
Trained
Look into Buckeye's feed called "safe n easy".

Ther were horses who didn't need grain what-so-ever who were put on that, at the barn I was a working student at. And also horses who got very little grain were given that as an addative tot heir portions...

The BM said that it doesn't make a horse got, and it is great for easy keepers - gives them the vitamins and minerals they need, while feeling like they are getting grained, without the xtra's that graining gives them.
     
    06-30-2009, 10:39 PM
  #16
Super Moderator
My horses don't get grain, but they do get a pelleted vit/min supplement, a small amount of pelleted rice bran, and Omega-3 Horseshine.

I prefer the Omega-3 Horseshine to plain flax because it has the appropriate ratio of Omega-3 to Omega-6. An overload of either (6 more than 3) is not good.

Omega-3 Horseshine has really gone up in price the last couple years but, you only need to feed a 1/2 cup (household measuring cup) daily. I divide that into two feedings.

Everyone got taken off dry grain and switched to rice bran when the horse in my avatar became Insulin Resistant two years ago. They all only get a token amount - 1-1/2 household measuring cups divided into two feedings.

Even the I-R horse is maintaining his weight on that little amount. The other three don't even need that, but I call it "filler" to mix their supplements in and it makes me feel like I fed them something

Not that it makes any difference, but three of my horses are also Tennessee Walkers, and the fourth is an Arab I rescued 16+ years ago looking like a starving horse poster child. The Arab is now 23, the TWH that is I-R is coming 22 and both do terrific without grain.

Please don't take offense but I learned 11 years ago that sweet feed is the worst possible thing to feed a horse. It is cheap to feed but it's like feeding a gallon of Hi-C and two dozen Hershey bars to a 10 yr old boy. It takes a lot more sweet feed to maintain a horse than even a dry grain-based feed.

The person that got me off sweet feed owned the feed store I bought from and also owned race horses. His very kind words were to "--do my horses a big favor and quit feeding them that stuff-".

He carried sweet feed and sold it, but for some reason he felt safe telling me to get my horses off it and spend more money on a good feed that I wouldn't have to use as much. I actually ended up saving money by feeding less and had healthier and less hyped-up/nervous horses for it
     
    06-30-2009, 11:54 PM
  #17
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by aynelson    
I have been dying to take my horses off Strategy. Your feeding regime is the very combination that I have thought about. Alfalfa seems like the best thing for horses, but with the pellet form does this mean we don't have to worry about blister beetles? Do you have to soak the alfalfa pellets? Why do feed companies poison our horses with starch and sugar anyway?
No, you don't have to worry about blister beetles. You also do not have to soak the pellets (unless you have a horse prone to choke or who gulps their feed down). Look for AP that is made in a northern state or the West Coast, and does NOT have any molasses. Mine has Alfalfa and Rice Bran on the ingredients list, that's it!

My horses have done so well since getting off grain and feeds. It was hard to switch (I thought my horses HAD to have all those fancy feeds and supplements), but once I saw the difference in my horses and ALL of the horses at the barn I boarded at, I knew I could never go back to traditional horse feeds again...
     
    06-30-2009, 11:56 PM
  #18
Green Broke
To prevent choke, feed in ground-level feeders, add just a little water and wait for the pellets to soften. I add Apple Cider Vinegar to mine for the added benefit of less flies! 1/2 cup of liquid is enough to get 3 lbs of pellets to start to soften and break up.
     
    06-30-2009, 11:57 PM
  #19
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by stacieandtheboys    
How much do you know to feed as far as the alfalfa pellets go? Also the only ground flax I could find was at TSC and was $40 is that about right?
I feed 1/2 to 1 scoop, using a 3qt feed scoop. That's about 1.5 to 3 lbs a day of Alfalfa pellets.

$40 for ground flax sounds about right, 20 lb bag? You can get whole flax cheaper if they'll order it for you.
     
    06-30-2009, 11:58 PM
  #20
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by walkinthewalk    

I prefer the Omega-3 Horseshine to plain flax because it has the appropriate ratio of Omega-3 to Omega-6. An overload of either (6 more than 3) is not good.
Hay has a good amount of Omega 6 fatty acids, so supplementing for Omega 6 is not really needed. Horseshine is fine, but that's the one part of their mix and marketing ploy that I do not like...
     

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