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post #21 of 32 Old 07-01-2009, 12:00 AM
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Look into Buckeye's feed called "safe n easy".

Ther were horses who didn't need grain what-so-ever who were put on that, at the barn I was a working student at. And also horses who got very little grain were given that as an addative tot heir portions...

The BM said that it doesn't make a horse got, and it is great for easy keepers - gives them the vitamins and minerals they need, while feeling like they are getting grained, without the xtra's that graining gives them.
http://www.buckeyenutrition.com/equi...EasyPeltag.pdf

For full nutrition, so the horse is getting all of the vitamins they need, you'd have to feed 4.5 to 7 lbs a day for an average sized horse. If you feed less than that, you'd need to add a vitamin supplement to make up for the lack of vitamins...
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post #22 of 32 Old 07-01-2009, 01:02 AM
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I do exactly the opposite of the name of the thread

At least 30% of my horses feed is OATS, and none of them get ' hot ' as a result, oats get bad press normally because of something else in the feed.

Unless your horse has a sugar intolerence, oats are by far one of the best horse feeds you can get.

If you had a conversation with my vet he would state that all you need to feed is - grass , alfalfa , hay and oats. He is completly baffled by people who take their horse of natural feeds and then have to supplement their man made diet because of missing vitamins etc.
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post #23 of 32 Old 07-01-2009, 11:48 AM
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I agree, Oats are a great feed. I can't use them though, not much. My Anglo gets hot and my Appy gets fat on them, lol. I do use plain whole oats some if we're riding and training a lot, for extra energy and just something "different" for them.

This year we're not doing much riding though, so no oats. We bought a foreclosed house last fall and the pasture and house needs work. It rained too much this past winter and spring, so we're just able to work on the outside now... ugh. Doesn't look like we'll get much riding in until fall! pooh, lol.

Even so, I have to feed a vitamin/min supplement. Our hay is low in many minerals and we don't have alfalfa hay here, only pellets (which are expensive to feed in large quantities), so I still need the supplement.
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Mine get a ration balancer to balance their hay and free choice hay or pasture depending on time of year/day ...

the problem with oats is haey are NOT balanced

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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post #25 of 32 Old 07-01-2009, 12:20 PM
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Oats are fine if your grass or timothy hay has the right nutrient profile, and you feed some alfalfa and have good grazing. The only vitamin/requirement that might be missing or low would be Vitamin E. The diet as a whole would be balanced. However, I don't know very many people who have that Utopian set-up here in the USA .
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post #26 of 32 Old 07-02-2009, 08:36 PM
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The Alfalfa pellets I have do not have feeding instructions. Lemme clarify: you feed about 1.5lbs for a 1000(ish) lb horse. Is this two times a day? How do you change this throughout the seasons? I am sooo glad to hear there are alternatives to the crap on the market. I wonder if ANY research goes into the long-term aspects of the diets offered by these companies.
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actually there shouldn't be really any directions on it since it depends on HOW you are using it ...

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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The Alfalfa pellets I have do not have feeding instructions. Lemme clarify: you feed about 1.5lbs for a 1000(ish) lb horse. Is this two times a day? How do you change this throughout the seasons? I am sooo glad to hear there are alternatives to the crap on the market. I wonder if ANY research goes into the long-term aspects of the diets offered by these companies.

the research is showing what the higher NSC diets does it is just getting people to understand that is the problem ...

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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post #29 of 32 Old 07-02-2009, 10:18 PM
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If they're on grass and getting hay, then there is really no need for grain. Cut out the grain slowly though as to not cause shock to their digestive systems - We all know how sensitive a horse's body can be!
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post #30 of 32 Old 07-02-2009, 10:34 PM
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I have had good luck with a feed called Tribute Kalm N EZ. It is grain free and all my horses stay calm and easy to handle. It is only 14% starch and my horses get free choice hay/pasture. This is the webpage for it, but for some reasont they have removed the ingredient list from their page. Tribute Horse Feeds | Tribute Kalm 'N EZ Pelleted | a pelleted low-starch feed formulated for all classes of mature horses. I know if you live further from Ohio, it is kind of hard to get ahold of.

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