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    11-18-2009, 11:48 PM
Question looooong hooves - recovery time?

I brought home my new gelding today. I am very unhappy with his front hooves and I'm counting the minutes til I can call the farrier in the morning.

I've attached a few pictures. He's not lame but he has flapjacks for front feet right now. I thought that was bad enough. When I got to cleaning, or attempting to clean out his hooves I was further disheartened. He has rocks embedded in the soles, but I'm certain they're actually embedded in almost cement-like crap. It looks to me like his heels have grown so long underrun that they're halfway down the sole.

Obviously his angles have thrown him off as well.

With a good farrier, potentially how long will it take before he'll start having normal looking feet? 6 months? A year? I want to avoid shoes if I can.

Any advice, knowledge, tips, supplements, anything - very welcome!
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    11-18-2009, 11:50 PM
I wanted to add: his front hooves are the size of salad plates. The pic of the underside was taken after trying to chip away the cement-like stuff and as many stones as I could.
    11-19-2009, 12:02 AM
Ouch, poor guy.
    11-19-2009, 12:03 AM
Green Broke
OH MY! Those poor footsies, yeah you are probably looking at a year or possibly longer till nice feet... Kudos doing it w/o shoes, you can keep them trimmed better w/o them, just make sure your farrier rocks the toe very well to help the poor guy with the white line separation that must be excruciating for him...
Good luck, keep posted!
    11-19-2009, 12:03 AM
Originally Posted by reining girl    
ouch, poor guy.
My thoughts exactly.
    11-19-2009, 12:03 AM
They are indeed in need of a trim, but it's not as bad as I envisioned by your descripiton. Not great, either. Lol

The heels aren't crushed and underrun, but they are very long, the whole foot is, really. And thrushy..yuck!

If you have a good trimmer, and got some boots w/ pads, you could be looking at just a couple of months before the hoof looks a whole lot better. This guy does have some contraction going on, but bring that toe back, lower the heels to the correct height, and fix that thrush, and he'll be set up for good mechanics and on the road to healthier feet. If he's tender, use the boots and excerice him. If not, just excercise him as much as you can barefoot, and keep in a reasonably clean and DRY area as much as possible ( I count a hilly pasture a good clean, and "dry" area, as there are well drained areas, so clean and dry is subjective)
    11-19-2009, 12:07 AM
I have just started on the journey of natural hoof care. You can see the beginning of my progress on Fudge here:
Fudge’s EPM Rehabilitation

If you want to avoid shoes, check out Pete Ramey's site. He has a new set of CD's that are supposed to be better than the book. I have not purchased them yet, but used ones are available on eBay. I do have his book.

Dawn Willoughby helped me start on this journey, with very good instruction. Dawn Willoughby

You might take a little ribbing from traditionalists about using a Mustang roll on a jumper. I have found that this method has produced (is starting to) a healthier, harder hoof on all three of mine.
    11-19-2009, 12:12 AM
Yay I was hoping you would reply. I don't have boots. There is a very good barefoot farrier coming to the barn on the 24th but I'm not really that excited about waiting that long to get started. I'm going to see if I can call her in the morning to come sooner. Unfortunately no hills here. Only real relief from dry is his stall.

I suspected that was thrush. Can you advise a good treatment?
    11-19-2009, 12:16 AM
I'm not anti-shoe or anti-barefoot. I'm one of those horrible flip-floppers that tries to just do what I feel is the best for the individual horse with as much advice and information as I can get. LOL if that made any sense at all!!

Aside from being long, his feet are rock solid. I'd like him to be barefoot, however if being shod would help him then I'll go with that too.
    11-19-2009, 12:19 AM
I notice that his feet are pretty uneven height-wise too. Once you've had him trimmed a few times and he's on his way to better feet, a few regular visits from the chiro would probably serve him well too, since he's bound to be all catty-whompus!

There's nothing horrible about flip-flopping. I think doing what suits each horse is best. Rigidly trying to force a foot to subscribe to whatever philosophy makes you feel good is much worse than not picking a position!

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