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  • Ledum lyme treatment horse dose
  • Symptoms of flare up of chronic lyme in horses

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    05-29-2013, 03:32 PM
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Yearling
Lymes...does it ever end?

Got bad new today, my horses results came back positive for lymes again. This time he's showing the numbers for acute, so he was reinfected, and his chronic numbers are higher then they were when he was tested in November :(

After testing him in November and finding out he had chronic lymes, the vet had me do the doxy for 30 days, and he was like a new horse after that. Then in April he started feeling stiff, and acting out again when you'd be trying to get on...like he did last time when I decided to get him tested :(

Vet told me to try ledum for 30 days, its an all natural remedy, but I wasn't able to get it in fast enough so I wasn't able to start it before his results came in today. Sooo now they want to try treating him with the IV tetracycline (i think that's what it is?) for a week, then 2 weeks of doxy...SOOO he gets to stay at the vet for a week, poor guy :(

Hopefully this works well, has anyone had good experiences with it or have any suggestions? I started using equispot on him a few weeks ago too and haven't been finding any ticks on him since. I'm lucky in live in Northern VA where ticks are just terrible!

My poor Dexter :( I really hope this treatment works!
     
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    05-29-2013, 03:49 PM
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It took several courses to clear up my one mare and even though she tested negative last month I'm still sure that all her arthritis problems that have never gone away resulted from the Lymes.
Other than using something like Equispot or Frontline and sprays that kill them the only thing you can do is check them several times a day but the **** things are so tiny and try to keep your grass short as that helps too
We used Frontline last year and this is the first year our lot have all tested negative so it must help
     
    05-29-2013, 03:50 PM
  #3
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Once they test positive, they will always test positive. It will always be in their system and will need treatment when symptomatic. I've seen severe cases and I've seen ones that need treatment once a year with Doxy. Its a case by case scenario.

I found that the ones that need treatment once a year or so, do better when on a joint sup. The doxy is also an anti inflammatory so putting them on a joint sup will make them feel better in between treatments. Again, it depends on your horse.
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    05-29-2013, 03:59 PM
  #4
Yearling
I've done a lot of reading and one thing I read is that supplements to help boost their immune system can really help with flare ups and symptoms? I was thinking of starting him on smartprotect ultra after this treatment...Have you heard that before? Or do you prefer to just use a joint supplement?
     
    05-29-2013, 04:00 PM
  #5
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When they get tested they don't exactly go for positive/negative because as you say they will always show something after they've had it once, what they do is read for 'levels' and if they're higher than they consider to be average they put them on another course
There was a thought that they would have some sort of an immunity after having it once but that doesn't seem to be the case though horses born and bred in a Lymes area seem to deal with it better than newcomers so maybe do develop a resistance of sorts
     
    05-29-2013, 04:10 PM
  #6
Yearling
Yeah, I guess saying positive wasn't really correct to say since he will always have it, but his numbers were actually higher then they were last november and she said this time he has acute and chronic. Not entirely sure how that works, like if the acute is from him having a flare up or was he actually reinfected by another tick? I told the woman I board with to check her 3 horses, since he was reinfected I'm sure they could have it too...and one of the ponies has been stiff and not completely herself so that makes me worry that she could have it :( Seems like almost every horse around here gets it so not sure if I believe they can develop a resistance to it lol
     
    05-29-2013, 04:18 PM
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I was also talking positive and negative so don't worry!!!
An old farrier round here told me that in his experience horses that were raised in a Lymes area seemed to suffer less than newcomers and our vet had seen similar but no saying how true it is. The same farrier also said that he'd had a really bad Lymes infection himself and that it flared up again from time to time - but again since they're so tiny and you live a rural lifestyle would be easy pick one up and miss it. We have 2 friends who've had awful Lymes disease and neither saw the b's that got them.
     
    05-29-2013, 07:02 PM
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Trained
While my horse does not get actively reinfected with Lyme each year, I do find adding Smart Energy to his diet in the warmer months seems to keep his energy level up. If seems to counteract the affects of flair ups.
     
    05-29-2013, 07:58 PM
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My daughters paint horse had lyme dease in 2010 he had flare ups every spring last spring he didn't flare up. He's having another flare up now started two days ago he very stiff and lame.

Got him on doxy now and already getting better did the IV oxy tet first time he had it plus doxy. He still relasped 12 day after doxy was done can test him every year he's always positive for lyme. He only gets treated if he has symtoms of it.
     

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