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post #1 of 10 Old 03-13-2009, 06:25 PM Thread Starter
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Major Weight Problem

I have a QH mare that I bought about a year ago. She has been on a regular wormer with a dose every 6 weeks beause she was severly wormy when I purchased her. She will not gain weight; she hasn't gained a pound since she has been with us. My vet keeps telling me to worm her and feed her, which is clearly not working. She is on senior feed, hay, and access to all of the grass she could ever want. I have two paint geldings and a quarter/pony gelding and they are all fat and happy, but my mare just looks so pitiful. I have had people ask me why we don't take care of her like we take care of our other horses! Any suggestions???

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post #2 of 10 Old 03-13-2009, 09:09 PM
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1) Get her teeth checked
2) Get a blood panel done
3) If you have extra money to spend have her scoped for ulcers
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post #3 of 10 Old 03-13-2009, 09:13 PM
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I would have her checked for ulcers and her teeth as well.maybe try some supplements in with her grain too.just my opinion
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post #4 of 10 Old 03-13-2009, 11:23 PM
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Teeth are the first thing that come to my mind. Second is ulcers and third is that the worms have degraded her digestion system to the point that she can no longer properly digest food.
I would also get her onto a vitamin and mineral supplement and make sure her diet is balanced by getting your hay and grass tested for what it may be missing or what ratios are out of whack and fix these. If you improve the nutrition of her diet then you have a better chance of getting her system back "into gear" than just by adding fat.
Also - if you are in a sandy region she could have sand in her gut.

I would get a vet to evaluate her and see if there are any physical problems (teeth, ulcers, intestinal problems, etc) and then get an equine nutritionist to evaluate her diet.
Good luck!
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post #5 of 10 Old 03-13-2009, 11:54 PM
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Find a new vet, ASAP!

I agree, have her teeth looked at. I would also have blood drawn to check for any other reasons she could be down on her weight.

What exactly are you deworming her with? How much senior feed is she getting daily?
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post #6 of 10 Old 03-14-2009, 09:19 AM
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I agree with what's been posted. Also, even though she's been wormed, have you had a fecal count done? Sometimes we're not worming for the right thing.
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post #7 of 10 Old 03-14-2009, 10:43 AM
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There are a couple of things you need to really look at before you go spending alot of money on diagnostics on this horse.

Feeding: Exactly how much senior feed are you giving?

Unfortunately people have this idea that senior feed is really good for putting on weight but they don't understand how it has to be fed to do that. It helps put weight on senior horses because it is more easily digestible and can be used to replace hay that a senior horse likely can't really digest. Senior feed is NOT calorie dense like grain based concentrates. It is a high fiber, forage based feed that must be fed in pretty large quantities to really improve weight. If you are feeding a 1000 lb horse something like Equine Senior he needs 13 lbs per day if he's not getting any hay. And if he is getting 12 lbs of hay per day he still would need 6-9 lbs of senior feed per day just for maintenance. That's not to increase weight--just to maintain what you've got. People often try to feed complete senior feeds like they are sweet feed and they just aren't the same. So, it really may be that you simply aren't feeding enough for weight gain.

For a 6 year old horse that has no other health problems (including needing floating), free choice good quality forage and a good protein/vitamin/mineral supplement to go along with the hay will generally maintain weight. If a bit of extra calories are need then the addition of fat to the diet can work wonders. 1-2 cups a day of vegetable oil (or people use sunflower seeds, flax, etc) for fat can greatly increase the digestible energy in the diet and is more easily digestible and less likely to cause health issues than a high grain diet like sweet feeds. Or you can use any number of grain based feeds that are out there on the market and that are designed to provide energy for working horses---these can be used to put weight on healthy horse. Just be sure to read the label and feed whatever you are using according to the directions---they aren't all the same.

Teeth: When were they last checked? Poor alignment, uneven wear and missing teeth can really impact how much a horse can get out of anything you feed. If her teeth haven't been checked in the last year, they need to be.

Deworming: You say she has been on a regular deworming schedule every 6 weeks, but what exactly are you using? The old rotational plans aren't good---especially now that resistance to commonly used dewormers is so widespread. It's fairly commonn for people to be thinking that they are effectively killing parasites in their horses when they aren't.

In the parasite control game, deworming more often isn't always better. Choosing the right product at the right time and deworming only as often as really necessary are what you want to strive for.

Have you had fecal egg counts done on your horses? Do you pick up feces out of your pasture daily or every other day? What are the weather conditions typically like in the winter and summer?
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post #8 of 10 Old 03-17-2009, 09:01 AM
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which senior feed and how much??

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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post #9 of 10 Old 05-28-2013, 09:32 PM
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COuld be teeth. Have them checked and floated if necessary.
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Ni, this is a very old thread
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