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post #1 of 12 Old 12-27-2012, 07:15 PM Thread Starter
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Make your own Probiotics

The more I look in to this the more fascinating the topic gets. Rather than pay the exhorbitant prices for probiotics for your horse/s you an very inexpensively make your own. A culture must be obtained that is known as Water Kefir. There is also Milk Kefir but we're dealing with Water Kefir. It's a beneficial bacteria that looks something like rice. Powdered kefir can be purchased but it's better to get them from someone else as once you have them and you look after them (a very small task) you will have a steady supply of probiotics for your family and animals. There is much info on youtube so I won't go into it hear. I just obtained Milk Kefir from a gal with goats and it is now basking in a cup of milk in a pint jar with a coffee filter secured to the top to allow any pressure to escape and keep a meandering fruit fly out of it. This will also contain many probiotics. No need to refrigerate for the first 24 then it's time to remove the "grains" and add them to new milk. This can then be refrigerated to slow them down or left out if used in about 24 hrs.
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post #2 of 12 Old 12-27-2012, 09:31 PM
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Oh goodness. Kefir.

Some lady talked my mother into growing Kefir and giving it to me as a probiotic because I have severe GI problems that cause me to 'go off my feed' often xD its NASTY stuff to grow and smells to high heavens, not to mention the fact that it tastes horrid, but I have to admit that it has helped me more than any other medication I've tried, including Px Probiotics and Protonics. I can definitely see it working for horses.

Hmm...maybe I should start sneaking my Kefir to the horses instead of buying the tubes at $6 each ;)

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You've been having the milk kefir. Try water kefir. The horses would likely love it. I hear it makes great ginger ale. The real stuff.
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Horses make their own probiotic. It is called 'poop' (amonst other things).

Whenever I have a horse that is not doing well, has been recently dewormed, sick or on antibiotics, or has some other health or digestive problem, I just put a scoop of fresh manure in its pen or stall every day. I like a donor that is healthy and parasite free, preferably a slick, fat easy keeper that is eating a similar diet. That horse will have a super high number of the beneficial bacteria that produce the exact enzymes that a horse on a similar diet needs. One small fecal ball will have more good bacteria than a tube of commercial probiotic.

This is nature's probiotic. A foal will nearly die if it does not have access to fresh manure. They start eating their mother's manure when they are only 2 or 3 days old. If a horse needs it, they will eat it.

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yep. Ditto Cherie for sure. If the need it they will usually eat it.

I have seen horses lives saved that had projectile water diarrhea and were going downhill super fast and nothing was helping by giving a "poop soup slurry" Basically its just a fresh pile of poo from a healthy fat donor horse, wet it a bit in a bucket and mix it round, strain it through a sieve to remove the solids and the vet tubes the liquid down the horses gullet. It helps super fast to restore proper flora. There is a technical vet term for this but I forget it now. Horse poo from a healthy horse is really the best probiotic.

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technical term: transfaunation
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Thank you. I could not remember the term either.

When I was on the track I ponied and groomed for a top trainer. He had me get a scoop of poop from one of the best 'doers' in the barn every evening, put it in a bucket of warm water, stir it, strain it through a towel and use it to soak evening bran mashes. He called it ,manure tea'. We had some of the best looking horses at the track.

And yes, I have used this solution to rehydrate horses via a stomach pump and a naso-gastric tube. It beats anything on the market.
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Cherie, you are ahead of your time. Did you know that this technique is gaining acceptance in the treatment of bacterial C. Diff infections in people? C-Diff is a huge problem in hospitals and can be fatal. The current long-term antibiotic treatments are hard on the body and not totally effective sometimes.

Studies show fecal transplant's effectiveness treating C. diff infections - CBS News

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The trainer I worked for had me do this in 1961. He was an old man then. I learned many valuable things from him that I have used for the last 50 years.

One of things he was really good at was 'claiming' cheap TBs that looked really bad, ran bad in cheap races, but had been good horses at one time. He said all they needed was to have someone that knew how to condition them and get them back in shape. We had 2 stakes winners in the barn that he claimed cheap that way.

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I never thought about that for horses, gonna tuck that into my little black book-o-knowledge.

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