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post #11 of 15 Old 10-26-2011, 09:12 PM
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I remember several years ago when I was taught that cribbing horses 'tricked' themselves into thinking they were full because of air passing through their stomach. I just did a quick e-search and found this:



So, my mistake ;) Learn something new every day.
hmm that's odd. i just read the EXACT opposite. but the cribbing increases saliva flow and that coats the stomach so it feels better...

i do believe i read

during cribbing endorphins do NOT release..therefore no high.

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post #12 of 15 Old 10-26-2011, 11:42 PM
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Experts now feel that the horse’s poor appetite is not from feeling full, but because they would rather be “high” than eat."
Might have to look into it again if the 'Experts now feel' is current & their 'feel' is based on facts(?). I understood the poor appetite, the cribbing and colic all to be symptoms of digestive disorders such as ulcers, which commonly come from bad feeding practices.

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hmm that's odd. I just read the EXACT opposite.
Not odd, just proof that you shouldn't just believe everything you read! Windsucking does seem to be one of(the many) subjects that there is an abundance of various 'lore' about, but much of it unfounded.

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Cribbing is a very difficult problem.

Recent studied by Cornell Veterinary School also agree that cribbing is a disorder that was almost non existant in wild horses. They also say that their studies indicate that ulcers or digestive disorders are unlikely to be the cause. They treated cribbing horses with Virginiamycyn and found they all continued to crib.

I have read that treating for ulcers has worked also but it was hearsay so I cant be sure one way or the other.

Cornell does seem to believe that horses fed highly concentrated feeds have a predisposition to cribbing.

Free choice hay and 24 /7 turnout seems to be best for cribbers.

Cornell also believes it is hereditary. (Studies were done in 2009)
Equine Ink Cribbing:Presumed Causes is where I read the article about Cornells research. Someone else may have newer research info.

One thing I do agree tho is that it is an obsessive compulsive disorder that you are unlikely to cure, it does not effect their health, (other than wear on teeth which one should expect) when they are cared for properly, and it is not true that cribbers are hard to keep weight on.
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hmm that's odd. i just read the EXACT opposite. but the cribbing increases saliva flow and that coats the stomach so it feels better...

i do believe i read

during cribbing endorphins do NOT release..therefore no high.
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Might have to look into it again if the 'Experts now feel' is current & their 'feel' is based on facts(?). I understood the poor appetite, the cribbing and colic all to be symptoms of digestive disorders such as ulcers, which commonly come from bad feeding practices.

Not odd, just proof that you shouldn't just believe everything you read! Windsucking does seem to be one of(the many) subjects that there is an abundance of various 'lore' about, but much of it unfounded.
The main point of me quoting that was not the "high" part but the part about it thinking horses made themselves think they were full being false. I just felt it was appropriate to include the whole paragraph, lol.


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i don't know about the cribbing but lots more hay is in order. i would double whatever your winter supply is for her as soon as possible. good luck :) my guys each have access to a full square bale of there own in the winter during the day and night. they are never excessively over weight and never have a problem keeping weight and working out during the winter. i am on that schedule already since my fields are depleted
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