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post #1 of 14 Old 07-29-2010, 12:44 PM Thread Starter
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mare and gelding mystery

I turned my 12 year old maiden mare out with a "gelding". Two months ago they had about 4 days of passion. My mare hasn't come into heat since....so the question is: Is the gelding really not all the way a gelding or is her cycle now really irregular?
Has anyone had a similar experience? The mare has been with me since a baby and never turned out with anything other than mares before. There are no other male horses for miles. The gelding is new.
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post #2 of 14 Old 07-29-2010, 01:28 PM
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Yes, this is rare but not uncommon. My aunt had a mare (10 yrold Paint) whom she purchased to ride/breed. She knew that the mare had had atleast 3 foals prior, but she decided to put her in with her riding horses instead of the other brood mares.
Well, the one gelding is proud-cut & still thinks he's a stud so ofcourse when they put the new mare in he "did his duty" & the same thing happened. She stopped going into heat & her milk bag even began to get bigger. Of course we knew that there was no way she was pregnant (her bag shouldn't have been filling up that fast anyhow), & so she talked to the vet & he informed us that she was going through a "phantom pregnancy".
It's more common in mares that have had foals before but does happen to inexperienced mares as well (expecially if they've never been around males & their hormones).
I'd just wait a little while to see if she'll go back into heat. If in doubt, you can always call the vet ;)

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I sure hope it is a phantom pregnancy! They are both nice horses but I really don't want to have to keep them apart half the year to prevent an endless stream of offspring. If by some odd quirk of fate he is fertile I will keep the foal.
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A gelding can mount and penetrate.



If you are worried call the vet.
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post #6 of 14 Old 07-29-2010, 03:34 PM Thread Starter
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the issue is more the lack of cycle of the mare now. My vet knows. If she doesn't cycle again between now and fall shots we will check her out. I've had mares and geldings together before but never had them get so romantic. I've seen other people's horses do it but not mine! I was just getting used to the idea that this would happen ever couple of weeks and I would have to avert my eyes and now they aren't interested in each other anymore and she treats him like a bad one night stand after being all in love!
I hoping to hear about people who may have had a mare behave this way in an irregular pattern. I've owned horses for 40 years and they have all had regular vet care so don't worry about me calling the vet if I think there is a reason.
I know I am using less than technical language here but I am trying to keep it G rated.
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If he does not have any testicles that are descended (so he would obviously not be a gelding) he can not get her pregnant. If, by some strange miracle, he has a testicle up inside those sperm would not be viable.


Mares are mares.

Most that I have known when introduced to new horses seem to go into heat even if they were just in heat. And the new horses do not need to be male.
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I sure hope it is a phantom pregnancy! They are both nice horses but I really don't want to have to keep them apart half the year to prevent an endless stream of offspring. If by some odd quirk of fate he is fertile I will keep the foal.
If he has no visible testicles, he will not be able to settle the mare.

The good lord did not create 'perfect' male testicles. They need to be outside of the body in order for the sperm to do their job. Think bulls, cats, dogs, human, etc etc.
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She didn't go into heat until 6 months after them being together and now she is not going into heat anymore. I'm thinking it might be that phantom pregnancy issue the first person mentioned.
Or perhaps she just isn't very regular and I hadn't paid that much attention before their display
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She might also have a vaginal/uterine infection that will keep her from cycling.

Since you said there were multiple times she was penetrated, she could very well have an infection, especially if the gelding hasn't had his sheath cleaned.

I'd get the vet out to examine her, just in case.
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