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  • Mares that are sick after difficult delivery

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    04-11-2012, 12:13 PM
  #41
mls
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Originally Posted by cmarie    
Ok first why do you think she retained her placenta? Second do you have any penicillin, if so give her 1 cc per 100 lbs in the neck or thigh. Make sure you pull the plunger out some to make sure there is no blood coming into the syringe if there is move the needle if you get penicillin in the vein she will die. I use 18 gauge needles 1 1/2 inches long. Horses do have discharge after foaling.
That is the NOT dosage calculation PenG.

Until the vet has confirmed an infection, do not give the mare anything. There are two lives to consider at this point - mare and foal.
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    04-11-2012, 12:16 PM
  #42
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Originally Posted by maura    
I'm stuck on a really basic question -

Did anyone check the placenta after the mare delivered? This is pretty much Foaling 101; you lay the placenta out on the floor or the stall and check for missing pieces or if it's incomplete; since the is a foal shaped bag turned inside out, a missing piece is pretty obvious if you lay the thing out.
That was my question too! With all of the experienced 'ladies' at her barn.

If the mare foaled with out assistance, she could of starting eating the palcenta too and that could explain missing pieces.
     
    04-11-2012, 12:27 PM
  #43
Weanling
Dogs can run off with the placenta as well.

As an RN that used to work in labor and delivery as well (saw another nurse post on here) I can agree that retention of placenta causes massive bleeding (which I also dealt with myself after my child was born). It has to be manually extracted.

I guess I just don't understand why anyone who thinks that there is a potential life threatening issue would go to a forum for advice instead of calling a vet. I don't have a chute at my place for the horses but my vet cares for them just fine. Not to be mean, but if you can't afford to have a vet care for your animals, perhaps you shouldn't have the animals. Just my opinion.
     
    04-11-2012, 12:46 PM
  #44
Green Broke
I've had horses many years & have never had one in a chute.
     
    04-11-2012, 12:47 PM
  #45
Trained
I hope that this thread makes people think about their plans for their own emergencies.

I simply shudder to think that anyone could foal out a mare without having a vet on speed dial. The time to build up a working relationship with your vet is before the birth, not when the problem happens.

We have no chute, but we do have walls, gates, stalls, we make things work.

I have no money, but I do pay my vet a set amount each month, and I'm currently in credit, if we have an emergency I phone him, he comes, we work out payments later.

Vet care 101, waiting and seeing often costs a lot more than CALL THE VET NOW, both in cash terms but also for the sake of the animals involved.

I wish you and your mare all the best and hope the vet has good news for you
     
    04-11-2012, 01:00 PM
  #46
Green Broke
I followed this mare's foaling thread and know that this OP has done the best for this unexpected pg. She didn't ask for this, and has only known about a baby coming for a matter of a few weeks. She asked questions, learned everything she could, and is crazy about this mare and her foal.

The basic question I would have had for her last night was WHY she thinks the mare has an infection. There is no fever, no behavior change, not change in appetite. The foal is several days old. She's never experienced normal vs abnormal discharge before... so someone at the barn says "Eh, she probably has an infecton." and she came on the board to ask advise.

I'm glad that after talking to the vet and giving him the symptoms (or lack of) that he didn't feel it was emergent.

Hopefully we'll get an update this morning...
     
    04-11-2012, 01:09 PM
  #47
Trained
Sorry Texas, but it doesn't take weeks to call a vet, and get an emergency contact set up. It is a bit scary to think what could have happened, and I think she is a bit lucky, at least so far, with the outcome. We all know that things notoriously happen on friday nights after the close of business or on a holiday.
I am betting (also as a nurse) that mare will be fine.
     
    04-11-2012, 01:14 PM
  #48
Weanling
Chutes are only needed if the mare is difficult to deal with........my mare had a difficult delivery........and my vet had to come back and flush her twice...it was done in her stall with her foal at her side ...no sedation was needed......but my mare was incredible to deal with for a maiden mare.....even my vet was impressed.

Retained placentas are considered a medical emergencies....as they can lead to laminitis and a very sick mare....... if the OP's mares had retained a large amount of placenta it is likely she would have more symptoms at this point but only a vet can say for sure......uterine infections don't usually cause mares to be sick for some reason but will likely leave her infertile for the future if not treated.

Super Nova
     
    04-11-2012, 01:14 PM
  #49
Green Broke
When I moved house the first thing I did was register with a vet in the area, even before my horse was transported up here.
God forbid if he had injured himself on the way up I would at least have had a vet to fix him.
Heck I did that even before finding a livery yard, the length of time to aquire a vet is a very poor excuse. It takes one 10 min phone call and about 40 seconds on google.

The mare should have been seen by a vet as soon as it was realised that she was in foal, simply beccause this mare had had no prenatal care.

I also would never ever register with a vets that didnt do emergancy calls and out of hours service (and yes I pay more for out of hours)
     
    04-11-2012, 01:21 PM
  #50
Green Broke
Now that she has been properly beaten - lol - I'm sure she'll have a contact more handy in the future.

Everybody has been inexperienced at something .. and learned lessons from experience .. I choose to show her a little grace.

The important thing is that she talked to the vet and he should be out today. The mare was asymptomatic so she will most likely be fine.

Waiting for the update .....
     

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