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    04-11-2012, 01:43 PM
  #51
Weanling
Everyone needs to take into consideration that the OP is young, is asking questions & when those questions are answered without her being bashed she promptly responds. We won't hear back till later as she previously stated she has school & that the mares appt was this afternoon. Stop bashing her!

Hope everything is alright & can't wait to find out how Hunny is doing!
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    04-11-2012, 02:05 PM
  #52
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Originally Posted by mysticalhorse    
Everyone needs to take into consideration that the OP is young, is asking questions & when those questions are answered without her being bashed she promptly responds. We won't hear back till later as she previously stated she has school & that the mares appt was this afternoon. Stop bashing her!

Hope everything is alright & can't wait to find out how Hunny is doing!
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And what you need to take into consideration that the advice that has been given, ie CALL THE VET, is the only safe advice that we can give.

The frustrations that people are expressing are heartfelt and genuine, there aren't many of us that have perfect facilities, endless pots of money, or vast knowledge about all sorts of veterinary matters, BUT when it is an emergency we all want to help, and we all know that in this case two lioes are very much at risk, and it is the responsibility of the owner to do their best for these animals, and I'm sorry but asking an online forum about doage for a drug that isn't even best indicated in this situation well ...


*SIGH* head desk,

Yeah lets just blow pretty smoke and paint butterflies and pat the child on the head and say there there, because that will make it all better...

What happened to anyone taking responsibility for their choices?

What happened to telling the truth even if it is harsh?

When did we become entitled to put animals at risk because we don't plan ahead?

I've said before, it doesn't take pots of money, hell I was broker than broke when Ace colicked, I've never seen a colic before, but I know her well enough that I knew she was sick, I'd read enough that I was pretty sure it was colic, I know my vet well enough to phone him describe the symptoms, and he knew he needed to attend.

The cost, well we dealt with that afterwards, and since then I have sold a lot of stuff, including horses, because that was a huge wake up call for me, you never know what is going to happen.
     
    04-11-2012, 02:09 PM
  #53
Green Broke
I realy don't have any sympathy for those who comprimise the welfare of thier horses through not seaking correct medical advice immediatly.

The OP Should have realised she doesnt have the knowlege required to foal a mare and called the vet. 99.9% of vets will run through what you should expect and what times the vet would expect to come out, what to look out for etc for free. This should have been done well before the mare foaled (i.e as soon as she was known to be in foal).

I have had one suprise foal, the mare was being kept on my yard prior to going onto a livery yard (not owned by me), showed no signs of pregnancy (didnt bag up, didnt have a tum, was in full ridden work and jumping the day before), walked into her stable one morning (to check waters and chuck some hay in) and found a foal looking back at me. Even though the mare looked to have foaled well without assistance, as I knew nothing about foaling mares, foals or any other conditions/complications associated with a mare giving birth I immediatly summoned the vet to get her and foaly checked out, I then called her owner to relay the news. The only way we can think she got preggers was if a colt on a previous yard jumped in with her but no one was admitting it if they knew about it (I only have geldings).
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    04-11-2012, 02:12 PM
  #54
Trained
Agree totally. Having a vet available is good practice for any of us, not just mares, foals, etc. Most barns have the numbers posted in a common area if not on each stall door. One of the barns I have mine at is large-there it is clearly posted for everyone to see. THe other barn is small-we all have the number in our phones, with emergency contact.

Same should be true of any living thing. People, dogs, whatever. I have a dog with Addisons disease and I have well established relationships with vets in a couple of states I frequent. You never know.
     
    04-11-2012, 02:19 PM
  #55
Green Broke
She called the vet .. the situation appears to be non-emergent - the vet is coming out there today ..

Our frustrations we are expressing about the continued berating of this poster is heartfelt and genuine also.

I think she got the point ... pages ago.
     
    04-11-2012, 03:10 PM
  #56
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Originally Posted by texasgal    
She called the vet .. the situation appears to be non-emergent - the vet is coming out there today ..

Our frustrations we are expressing about the continued berating of this poster is heartfelt and genuine also.

I think she got the point ... pages ago.

Bottom line here - her subject line says Mare Infection! I need help asap!

Most of the posters are responding to that. Jumping on the internet to ask a bunch of strangers (some with totally incorrect advice) is not something anyone should do in a true emergency.

FYI to the poster who said retained placenta cause massive bleeding - not the norm at all. If the mare steps on the afterbirth and it is ripped out vs detaches on it's, then yes some bleeding can occur.. We've foaled many mares and worked at an equine hospital with full breeding and foaling unit.

In the above mentioned situation - do NOT cut the external placenta. Tie it up so the mare does not step on it and allow her to try and complete the delivery on her own. There is an ideal window but we all know horses do not read textbooks.
     
    04-11-2012, 06:53 PM
  #57
Weanling
This forum is supposed to be a place to support each other, give advice if possible and learn from each other. I personally see that this young lady is out of her depth because she has never experienced a mare foaling or the care after that goes along with it. It would be much more productive on here if people would stop the attacks.

She has called a vet, they are to have been there today. Did she deal with this properly? Not likely...she is new to it...Will she learn from her mistakes..Im sure she will. Does it help for everyone to bash her because she isnt doing it their way..NO...People ..please treat her with some respect and afford her the courteousy of her lack of knowledge for having foaled out a mare ...she had just bought and did not know was in foal. She WILL learn from this.
This is the one time I dislike hearing from people who have no compassion for the girls situation, we do not know what the barn managers have been saying, and she does not know any of us personally so why should she trust anything we have to say any more than she should trust the vet who told her the mare was not in dire need of a farm call before this afternoon. I know she asked for HELP but it seems to me this is turning into nothing like HELP..
     
    04-11-2012, 08:13 PM
  #58
Yearling
Thank you Annie. Hunny is fine, I just didn't know that mares usually ooze for 5 days after they foal. She is completely normal, healthy, and fine. Chill people, it's over. Leave me the crap alone I have no idea what I am doing with this whole foaling thing. Since this is North Dakota and most people have a "cowboy up" attitude about things, I was told to leave her and see how it goes. So I did. I posted this here because I have no idea what to expect from foaling. I thought maybe someone that does know could have just told me "oh hey they usually leak and continue to cleanse for about 5 days after they foal" or my new favorite that I thought of, "if she really did have the placenta in her and she had the baby 4 days ago already, she would be dead". So thanks for the remarks, forget me asking for help again. The bashing was appreciated, it showed me that no matter how lost someone is, there is always someone left to tear them down for their lack of knowledge about a subject. It's like when a teacher tells a student that they're stupid. Thank you for calling me stupid, it really is eye-opening to know that more then one person thinks so. Please, the next time you have a question about something because of a lack of proper knowledge about it, look in the mirror and call yourself an idiot, because it is the same thing that you did here. I don't know anything about foaling, I didn't want this baby and I was not expecting it. I am doing the best I can given the current situation.
     
    04-11-2012, 08:20 PM
  #59
Trained
One must have a thick skin to post & communicate with strangers on the internet, never let someone you haven't met before upset from what they have typed, never, ever. Life is great after that.

Anyways, I just wanted to say I am so glad your Hunny & her baby are fine, looking forward to more pics of them.
     
    04-11-2012, 08:29 PM
  #60
Yearling
Thank you waresbear :) this whole first time foaling business is a lot to digest...
     

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