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post #1 of 16 Old 11-20-2009, 07:21 AM Thread Starter
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mare question...

My mare is about 100-200 pounds underweight, but is gaining it back quickly with lots of grain and hay. My concern is that her vagina is tipped back and her anus is sunken in as well. As she gains weight will these go back to the normal position, or because of her age (17) and the possibility that she has had a couple babies, will these remain tipped and sunken? Right now I am cleaning the area every day because when she poops and pees it gets the area just covered in poop and urine. I am also really paranoid about infection of her uterus, while it looks fine now, I am guessing it is only a matter of time because of these conditions.

On another note, she was turned out with a stud for three months (thank god its a high quality stud, but dumb owners). She does not look pregnant to me (another rescue on the farm was turned out with her son and looks about ready to pop any day now, once again stupid owners), but what do some experts think? She could be anywhere from one month to three months along. I am really hoping that the fact that she is tipped would make it harder for her to get bred and will be working in my favor.






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post #2 of 16 Old 11-20-2009, 08:45 AM
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have you called the vet about her and expressed your concerns?

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post #3 of 16 Old 11-20-2009, 09:11 AM
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I honestly have no idea what it could be beyond possibly not being in season.
Mares will slow or cease ovulation during the winter months. That may be what she is going through. I'm more concerned about her manure, is it runny? Is that the reason she is getting it all over herself? My girls are usually fairly clean back there unless they are having diarrhea.


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post #4 of 16 Old 11-20-2009, 09:29 AM Thread Starter
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Nope, it's not runny, but her anus is sunken in and her v-jay-jay is tipped back towards it so when she poops it kinda just falls out over that area, if that makes sense. I can try to get pictures of it. O_o

I have to wait on the vet until my next paycheck. Stupid bills.
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You can't tell visually if a mare is pregnant when she is only 1-3 months along. As far as the rear plumbing goes she has gone 17 years with it and not had any problems and actually had 3 foals so she is probably fine. From the pictures I would say she is not much under wieght. Most horses are too fat. Just because you can see her ribs a little doesn't mean she is too thin.

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post #6 of 16 Old 11-20-2009, 10:11 AM
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I honestly don't think its anything to worry about.


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i knew i had seen that in my equine vet book before. but at the moment i cant find the book (hope my dogs didnt eat it, it was expencive!!! ) anywho- i wanted to be exact on this, so i looked it up. this is what i thought, but i wanted to have wording and everything right lol

"The conformation of the mare's vulva is frequently overlooked by producers. Desirable vulva conformation is characterized by a vulva vertical to the pelvic floor, parallel with the anus and the lips meet to form a seal. Undesirable conformation is a vulva lying more horizontal with the pelvic floor, or having a "tipped inward" appearance. The anus will appear sunken and in a position predisposing the mare to collecting fecal material in her vagina.

Additionally, poor conformation of the vulva predisposes mares to wind sucking (pneumovagina) and urine pooling. This undesirable vulva conformation can be due to genetics, aging, and/or poor body condition. Regardless of the cause, poor vulva anatomy is an important component of subfertility in mares due to the ease in which the mare's tract can become contaminated and infected. "
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She wouldnt look pregnant at 3 months.

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post #9 of 16 Old 11-20-2009, 11:51 AM
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She wouldnt look pregnant at 3 months.
yeah, its too hard to tell if i mare is pregnant until they are farther along. for example, here is my broodmare at a little over 4 months... does she LOOK pregnant? not really. maybe a little.. but to me ... she just looks like a healthy mare!





i think it would be very worthwile for you to have a vet come out and check her. they can palpate the mare and see if shes pregnant. or do a sonogram. palpation is cheaper though, and its best to know if shes pregnant now, to avoid complication later!
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i knew i had seen that in my equine vet book before. but at the moment i cant find the book (hope my dogs didnt eat it, it was expencive!!! ) anywho- i wanted to be exact on this, so i looked it up. this is what i thought, but i wanted to have wording and everything right lol

"The conformation of the mare's vulva is frequently overlooked by producers. Desirable vulva conformation is characterized by a vulva vertical to the pelvic floor, parallel with the anus and the lips meet to form a seal. Undesirable conformation is a vulva lying more horizontal with the pelvic floor, or having a "tipped inward" appearance. The anus will appear sunken and in a position predisposing the mare to collecting fecal material in her vagina.

Additionally, poor conformation of the vulva predisposes mares to wind sucking (pneumovagina) and urine pooling. This undesirable vulva conformation can be due to genetics, aging, and/or poor body condition. Regardless of the cause, poor vulva anatomy is an important component of subfertility in mares due to the ease in which the mare's tract can become contaminated and infected. "
That sounds a lot like my mare. I hope that it is not a permanent conformation problem and will be rectified with weight. The urine pooling is what I am worried about. I was talking to my chiropractor who also breeds QHs, I was saying that she can't be bred she was in heat, or so I thought, but she mentioned that because of her vulva being tipped she might be urine pooling and peeing more often to try and get rid of the urine that back-washed into her vaginal canal. But like I said it does not appear infected.
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