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  • CAN YOU LEAVE THE MIRACLE COLLAR ON YOUR HORSE FOR A LONG TIME

 
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    03-15-2009, 10:11 PM
  #11
Yearling
I disagree, there's always something you can do about it. Put on a wire muzzle. They can still eat and drink... and they're not in danger from cribbing. How are they miserable?

My horse is outside 24/7 (we don't have stalls to put them in so it's not an option) with grass and hay. And he still cribs if he feels like it, so sometimes that doesn't help.

I do agree about the ulcers--my gelding got them after being discharged from the new bolton center, and he cribbed like crazy because of them.
     
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    03-16-2009, 11:08 AM
  #12
Foal
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Originally Posted by mayfieldk    
I disagree, there's always something you can do about it. Put on a wire muzzle. They can still eat and drink... and they're not in danger from cribbing. How are they miserable?

My horse is outside 24/7 (we don't have stalls to put them in so it's not an option) with grass and hay. And he still cribs if he feels like it, so sometimes that doesn't help.

I do agree about the ulcers--my gelding got them after being discharged from the new bolton center, and he cribbed like crazy because of them.
Thats my point. If you put a wire muzzle on, sure he can still eat and drink, but his other horsey activities are taken away that make him happy. For example, mutual grooming.

If your guy is very prone to colicking or other extremely detrimental issues from cribbing, then the muzzle would be the lesser of two evils. If your horse doesn't exhibit any sign of colic, ulcers, or the like then I would leave it be.
     
    03-16-2009, 11:31 AM
  #13
Foal
He used to crib with bits of feed, but I haven't seen this in awhile, actually. I have not discussed ulcers, but that seems possible... I will look into that, too. Yes, he does have free choice hay.
     
    03-16-2009, 11:38 AM
  #14
Foal
My gelding used to do it with feed as well. Only grain though. And, ONLY when he was in his stall.

Almost makes you wish you could read their minds and find out why?
     
    03-16-2009, 03:09 PM
  #15
Showing
Has anyone mentioned looking into his diet, living conditions, or ability to exercise?

     
    03-16-2009, 04:22 PM
  #16
Yearling
Hot wire installed on the inside of the fencing can slow them down.
     
    03-16-2009, 05:27 PM
  #17
Yearling
There's already hot ropes installed.
Hero cribs. But I noticed, he had hid collar off all day Saturday. He was on stall rest due to a striking incident. I didnt notice him cribbing at all. Yet other times he went without his collar he cribbed bad. So there must be another factor, and I am interested to know what it is. It might be ulcers, but since I'm not his owner or caretaker I can't do much.
Just a sidenote, his collar does help and I havent noticed any rubbing.
     
    03-16-2009, 05:58 PM
  #18
Zab
Yearling
Let him crib, those collars are torture devices.
The cribbing in itself isn't harmful (except for the teeth if he takes support with them, but he'll dothat whateveryou do), but the reasons for his cribbing (mental stress) can be. The cribbing is just a way to help him deal with the real problem, take that away is like tying the hand on someone with tons of mosquito bites.. it doesn't make them more at ease. Plus, the collar is physically hurting him..

If he started at the old barn, the real issue might be gone, but now he still needs the cribbing to relieve stress.
     
    03-16-2009, 06:46 PM
  #19
Weanling
Electric fences may curb it, but they'll just crib on buckets and water troughs instead =/

And to my knowledge, Cribbing could actually hurt the horse in the long run and not just superficially with wearing down the teeth (that will happen too!) Some vets believe that the air ingested can cause colic due to the air being "swallowed" so to speak.

Of course, diagnozing a specific reason for colic can be nearly impossible at times :p

Best of luck hun!
     
    03-16-2009, 06:53 PM
  #20
Zab
Yearling
Skippy; I've gone through a 3 years education/high school on horses and according to them it's just a long-lived myth that the cribbing horse actually swallows air :)
The answer to the cases of colic in cribbers is that cribbing often starts on horses that doesn't get enough food, or by some reason has a problem/pain in their digesting systems, which in turn can cause colic.
     

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