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    12-22-2011, 01:40 AM
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Molar grew over wolf tooth...anyone dealt with this?

So, I have a 7 year old Thoroughbred mare, Sasha, who I've owned for a year as of last week. Her teeth were floated days before I bought her. Well, lately she developed a sensitivity to the left rein, shaking her head and getting terribly irritated by it. My trainer suggested it might be a sore tooth, and we were going to call the vet out for a floating anyways, so we went ahead and did it.

Sure enough she had some sharp edges, and a weird bump right where the wolf tooth would go on her left side, and nothing on the right. Weird. The vet came back yesterday, (he came out last Thursday) for X-Rays of this bump. It appeared to be her wolf tooth, which was weird because she's 7, and there was nothing on her right side, suggesting it was removed.

Either way, the vet said he will just remove it, which would require a little work because it was still submerged in her gum a bit, but it wouldn't be too bad. Well. He started working on it, and it became clear it had grown weirdly, a little bit further back and to the side of where it should have grown. Her molar then grew around the wolf tooth, trapping it. For some reason, it didn't cause a huge issue until now. The vet was working on it for an hour, trying to get it out, and Sash kept needing more sedation, being a very nervy, hot, horse, because she kept getting nervous and trying to pull back from the setup she was in, etc. After an hour, the vet admitted he did not think he could get it without a huge struggle, and he said he was sending the X-Rays to a specialist, because the further he got, the weirder the situation was. So, her X-Rays were sent to Cornell University.

I had to soak her grain for her dinner several hours later because she was having trouble eating, and I'm supposed to flush her mouth with salt water for the next few days.

Has anyone ever had anything like this? How did it end up?
     
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    12-22-2011, 06:13 AM
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Yearling
Sounds very strange - are you sure your vet knows about teeth? The wolf tooth has such a shallow root that it shouldn't cause much trouble getting it out unles growing tight against the molar. There is noway the molar can grow around it, the molar roots are far to big for that.

Some horses lose their wolf teeth naturally, some don't grow them. I'd be getting an equine dental tech to do the teeth along with really heavy sedation.

My five year old has just had his removed and the vet made a big fuss about even taking them out, she said they were massive teeth and once out they were actually really small compared to others I've seen.
     
    12-22-2011, 09:28 AM
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I doubt it is a wolf tooth. As said above, wolf teeth are little tiny teeth that basically come out like a piece of popcorn, they have such a small root. We routinely take them out when doing a dental if the owner wants, under the same sedation , usually when we are all done and the horse is waking up. Just a quick twist and they come out.
I would suspect its a piece of the jaw bone or even the root of a molar that is growing weird, not a wolf tooth. I think your vet might be over his/her head at this point, go to a specialist, especially now that he has dug around so much. Did he put your mare on antibiotics after all the messing around in her mouth? If not, I would, that is an infection waiting to happen.
     
    12-22-2011, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wyominggrandma    
I doubt it is a wolf tooth. As said above, wolf teeth are little tiny teeth that basically come out like a piece of popcorn, they have such a small root. We routinely take them out when doing a dental if the owner wants, under the same sedation , usually when we are all done and the horse is waking up. Just a quick twist and they come out.
I would suspect its a piece of the jaw bone or even the root of a molar that is growing weird, not a wolf tooth. I think your vet might be over his/her head at this point, go to a specialist, especially now that he has dug around so much. Did he put your mare on antibiotics after all the messing around in her mouth? If not, I would, that is an infection waiting to happen.
To give credit to the Vet, the Vet seemed to agree, and started looking for back up. I would see what he/she has to say after consultations. Seems to me he is doing exactly the right thing. Tried to help, realized he couldnt, and is seeking back up. Nothing wrong with that.
     
    12-22-2011, 07:28 PM
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I said the vet was in over his head, which obviously he was. Sometimes it is best not to start on something if you can't finish it, you need to know exactly what it is you are surgically doing before you start. I would have thought the vet might do some checking before he started digging , not afterwards after the horse was stressed and he realized he couldn't figure it out.
Both vets I work with, if they question something, they send out xrays or at least talk on the phone BEFORE they start a questionable surgery on any animal, either large or small. Not start something, go "oops, I can't figure this out" and then decide to contact someone more knowledgeable.
As I said, the vet was in over his head and should have realized it after the xrays. Wolf teeth don't have big roots and that should have been noticed looking at the xrays.
     

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