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    10-20-2008, 03:08 PM
Green Broke
Mustang Rolls

I know what one is, but what are the benefits of a mustang roll?

Anyone here have horses with them?


I'm all ears
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    10-20-2008, 03:30 PM
The mustang roll lets the hoof breakover quicker in the stride.

With a quicker breakover, there is less leverage force placed on the laminae of the hoof (the connection between hoof wall and internal structures). Less leverage means less stress and damage (like using your fingernails as tools, it's not good for them, and probably doesn't feel good).

The benefits are numerous. Less mechanical stress on the hoof, it affects everything. In foundered and navicular horses, most farriers attempt to help the breakover by raising the heels. It's the right idea, just applied in the wrong place. Raising heels takes the shock absorbing part of the foot off the ground, creating some problems in itself. A mustang roll shortens breakover at the toe, yet allows the back of the foot to function normally. So many of the lameness problems can be helped by a mustang roll. Even natural balance shoes are a step in that direction, though the squared toe isn't quite right, either. Hooves are oval, not square.

Mustang rolls should be customized to the horse. A steeper angle is better for thicker walled horses or ones with a lot of flaring. Thin walled horses will need less of one.

My horses have mustang rolls (barefoot trims) and it is not only more healthy for the feet, it is generally more attractive. It's just a mimic of the natural wear a hoof would get if our horses were able to exercise enough to wear off the hoof on their own. What could be better than trying to maintain the hoof as God/Nature designed?

And that's my oversimplified answer. =)
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    10-20-2008, 04:01 PM
What is a mustang roll???
    10-20-2008, 04:07 PM
While I can't give all the credit to the mustang roll (I think there is just something smart about not putting pieces of metal in living tissue to hold on another piece of metal) horse has gotten loads more sound since we started doing the natural trim. We were having problem after problem with lameness issues until a year ago I decided to start trimming him myself (because my farrier refused) with the natural model. It just makes sense. In fact...when we were fighting lameness WITH farrier put aluminum shoes on so that the toe area would wear down (aluminum is soft) and round...later on I figured out that my farrier was trying to mimic a mustang roll and still charge me $90 a job!
    10-20-2008, 04:19 PM
Ok so is a mustang roll nothing more that a natural trim? Just with a fancy name? Im a little confused.
    10-20-2008, 04:43 PM
A mustang roll is a smooth, round bevel on the edge of the bottom of the hoof. Applying a mustang roll is one step in having a "natural trim."

This is a cadaver it looks weird...but look at the smooth edge around the bottom of the hoof
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    10-20-2008, 04:52 PM
Ok I see now! Thanks. That hoove looks nice. I can ask my farrier to do that/apply the mustang roll to my horse? Is it better that a basic natural trim? Barefoothooves's feet look really nice as well. Do they have a mustang roll to them? It dosent look like it.....also what is better for horses? Sorry for all the questions I never heard of the mustang roll
    10-20-2008, 09:28 PM
Green Broke
Here's the link to some hoof shots on the Pete Ramey website that should give an idea of what the Mustang roll is.

natural hoof care

It is not something every trimmer/shoer knows how to do.

I have been trimming off and for 49 years. When my 21 yo TWH became metabolic a year ago, I took everyone's hooves back.

I found a Pete Ramey student 40 miles away who willingly spent the winter mentoring me on my own four horses, so I could learn to utilize these new (to me) trimming principles plus manage my metabolic horse's hooves.

I am still skittish about using the agressive roll like he wants me to on the one horse, but I have conquered the degree of roll he wants me to do on my metabolic horse.

It is the best thing I could have done for this horse. My metabolic horse will probably always be laminitic but he has never foundered. I give every credit to his fairly ouchless movement across the stones in the paddock to the barefoot farrier's teachings.

That being said, common sense will dictate that I put boots on Duke if I ever take him off our property, but the fact that he can "hit a good lick" (he's a Tennessee Walker) coming across the stones thru two gates without gimping is a wonderful sight to behold.

So yes, there is a lot more to the "natural trimming" principles as opposed to the pasture trim that most shoers do.

Typically a natural trimmer will not put shoes on a horse. If the shoer professes that he does "natural barefoot trimming", I would ask him who he studied with and then check those credentials to be sure.

My current barefoot farrier/mentor USED to shoe. He became disenchanted with shoeing methods that weren't helping the horses as they were supposed to.

He studied Pete Ramey's principles, and after three years of practicing on his own horses and any friend that would agree to keep their horse barefoot, he felt he was finally ready to "go out in the world".

He will tell folks if they are not happy with the barefoot trim, it is their right to go back to shoes, just don't call him

I hope I helped answer the question some
    10-21-2008, 10:49 AM
Yes you did some what.....which is better a natural trim or a mustang roll??? This may help..i have a 2 1/2 year old rescue paint filly who's hooves have never been tended to...they do not look as bad as I thought they would! I have been working with her everyday to allow me to pick her feet up and hold them as long as I need to. Which ahould I ask the farrier to do? And is the mustang roll they can do on their first time out or does it take a few trimmings to get them properly rolled?
    10-21-2008, 01:04 PM
The roll can be applied any time. It's the one constant in every barefoot trim, even when other details may change. It can vary in the degrees of the bevel, but it's always there. Especially when dealing with existing problems, that bevel can make a horse immediately comfortable!

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