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    04-27-2012, 09:33 AM
Green Broke
Firstly, one flake of hay is not anywhere in the vicinity of enough hay. You want him on at least 2% of his IDEAL body weight in hay. If you want him at 600kg he needs 12kg of hay (as an example, without knowing his height and build I can't be certain of his ideal body weight).

Secondly, you need to feed by weight not volume. 2 litres of chaff tells me nothing. 2kgs tells me something. Invest in kitchen scales and weigh everything you feed him.

Thirdly, ditch the pollard. It's useless. And after some googling. Ditch the Easifeed Old Timer. It's sweet feed. It's the equivalent of feeding a child candy all it's life.

Now, if he has adequate hay, chaff really isn't a necessary ingredient either.

Look into either Speedi-beet or Hygain Micrbeet. They are beet pulp products that are a fantastic base for any horse's diet. On their own they will not add weight, but combined with the right things they are fantastic.

I would definitely keep him on a senior feed, but I would look in to Nutririce Veteran or Mitavite Gumnuts. Both awesome feeds!

Honestly, with adequate hay, a GOOD senior feed and perhaps some beet pulp I think you would notice a significant improvement.

As an aside, I completely agree with NdAppy that being a thoroughbred is no excuse for any horse to be underweight and nor is their age. It is rarely the number of years that an older horse has been alive that are the true cause of a lack of condition, rather it is underlying medical issues.
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    04-27-2012, 09:44 AM
Agree with HowClever. At least 2-3 flakes of hay PER meal. Pasture is not enough. I bet he's missing a lot of vitamins and minerals since not all grass pasture has everything that a horse needs, especially an older horse.

Get off him off the sweet feed, not good for any horse especially an older gent.
    04-27-2012, 09:46 AM
That isnt is pasture. The first picture is in my front yard and the second is where I ride him. Im going to give him 2 flakes of hay during the winter and his grain so hopefully he will put on weight. Can anyone suggest any good rugs for him? It rains a lot here so it has to be water proof :)
    04-27-2012, 09:48 AM
Get off him off the sweet feed, not good for any horse especially an older gent.[/QUOTE]

What food can you suggest? I really want my boy to be healthy
    04-27-2012, 09:48 AM
Green Broke
I can pretty much promise you that with what you are currently feeding and 2 flakes of hay you will see little to no improvement, more than likely you will see a continued deterioration in his condition.

ETA: If you read what I posted previously I suggested 2 different senior feeds that would be a tenfold improvement on what you are feeding currently.
    04-27-2012, 09:55 AM
Sorry how clever I missed your post before. Thankyou for your suggestions. I will cheak the local store and see if they have any of those in stock and if not I will get them to order it :) thankyou.
    04-27-2012, 10:03 AM
Green Broke
He is what I would classify as 'light on' which means he could certainly use a little more weight, but he isn't so underweight that there is a health concern. At 22 you shouldn't be seeing age related weight loss unless there is an underlying condition causing the weight loss. In another ten years age might be a factor.

He needs a diet higher in protein and some conditioning work to build up some nice topline. Throw in something with some high quality fat (rice bran or the like) and you should be able to develop a well balanced diet for an older horse in light work. In addition to the feed advice, when was the last time his teeth were done? At that age teeth can become an issue. Also, what is his worming schedule?

In regards to rugs, I like anything Weatherbeeta, particularly the Orican.
    04-27-2012, 10:08 AM
If they don't have specific labels, look for something with a high fat %, low sugar, and a good laundry list of vitamins and minerals that horses cannot get from hay and pasture alone.

Here is an example (I use it, so I feel confident suggesting it for a reference)
This is the %s in TCS

Crude Protein (min.)14.00% Lysine (min.)0.70% Methionine (min.)0.20% Threonine (min.)0.40% Crude Fat (min.)10.00% Crude Fiber (max.)17.00% Calcium (min.)0.90% Calcium (max.)1.40% Phosphorus (min.)0.60% Magnesium (min.)0.37% Iron (min.)175 ppm Potassium (min.)1.25% Selenium (min.)0.50 ppm Zinc (min.)170 ppm Manganese (min.)100 ppm Copper (min.)55 ppm Vitamin A (min.)6,000 IU/lb Vitamin D (min.)1,000 IU/lb Vitamin E (min.)170 IU/lb Ascorbic Acid (min.)45 mg/lb Biotin (min.)0.30 mg/lb

Hope that helps!

As for rugs.. I use Saxxon and so far I am pleased. But I've heard fab things about WeatherBeeta as well.
    04-27-2012, 10:12 AM
He is womed every 8-10 weeks (what it says on the packet). His teeth were done september last year. There were problems but they are now fixed. Has anyone ever tired Full fat soy bean meal? His previous owner told us to feed him that but there were major floods and the company put making the feed on hold for year. I havn't fed him it since I have had him but is it any good?
    04-27-2012, 10:15 AM
Also with minerals? He was having equilibrium but I have heard that it doesnt work? He gets mineral blocks but is there any thing else I can give him?

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