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post #11 of 95 Old 05-21-2010, 03:19 AM
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First, prayers and hugs for you, your daughter, her husband and the horse.

Second, I know it's not the dogs' fault that their owners are irresponsible, but dogs that run in packs are DANGEROUS. If they brought down a horse, they need to go. If your daughter or son-in-law feel uncomfortable doing it, they should find someone who can. It would definitely be best if the dogs were on your daughter's property, though, for legal reasons.

In Kansas, it's illegal to kill a mountain lion (especially since they don't officially exist here, but that's a whole other thing). My horses were getting attacked, and a neighbors sheep were being killed. The game warden came out and looked at some sheep caracasses and told the owner that if they saw the mountain lion on their property, they could kill it. The only stipulation was that they had to call the warden and not move the mountain lion after it was dead.

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post #12 of 95 Old 05-21-2010, 06:56 AM
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SO SORRY-how awful! Hope the horse is ok, and those dogs would be HISTORY! I am an animal lover, but in this case-the dogs would have to be gone. End of story. I might say something to the neighbors first, to let them know that I WOULD shoot their dogs if they come back. If I could speak coherently, that is.......GRRRRRRR.
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post #13 of 95 Old 05-21-2010, 08:21 AM Thread Starter
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update on the mare

My daughter called off and on during the vet visit and while the sheriff was there. She was told by the sheriff that she could not shoot the dogs in a residential neighborhood. The owners of the dogs were standing there, saying " I am so sorry, but I bet a mountain lion got her" Of course this was during the day in a neighborhood. Then the young man said" they are my inlaws dogs and she let them out" It won't happen again, blah blah blah. They know that their dogs did it, as a matter of fact, one of them will jump the fence and chase my granddaughter and her dog down the road. My daughter told them in front of the sheriff, keep your f***ing dogs at home. They said" oh we will keep them chained".. So, sounds like that will be a battle.
Anyway, the vet worked on the mare until midnight, sewed up what he could on the front leg, then put a bandage on it. The back leg at the fetlock is very very swollen, my daughter if afraid it is broken. I talked to the vet on the phone and he said she does put a slight bit of weight on it, it bends the correct way, but is so swollen. There are no cuts on the fetlock, some up higher on the hock. She will put the tip of the hoof down, and did kick the vet when he tried to treat the cuts. She will rest it on the top of the hoof/fetlock. I am hoping it is just sprained or twisted, but that was all they could do last night
I told my daughter to see what was happening with her in the morning, see if she wants to eat, move, etc. I told her she will be swollen and sore, but she should show some attempt at moving with that leg. A friend who has barrel horses will come by this morning(she worked the graveyard shift last night) and they will look her over. The husband will be home this morning also.
I told her the cuts and tears will heal, the leg will be the issue. If she is attempting to walk on it this morning and eating, etc then I would give her some time. If she is down or refuses to put weight on the leg, etc then she knows it is only fair to put her down. Its hard to judge in the dark, the mare was eating last night, etc.
Will update when I can today, I am heading to dog shows, but will bring my laptop with me.
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post #14 of 95 Old 05-21-2010, 08:33 AM
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I wouldn't decide after 1 day. Give her some time. Animals heal and come through some pretty significant injuries. Can't an xray be done to see if it really is broken and not just sore?
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Oh, I didn't mean to say she would make the decisions today, I just told her to wait and think on a calm mind in the morning, not make quick decisions last night while everything was going on. Thats what I told her, horses make some big recoveries, it will just take time.
As far as an exray, right now putting the horse into a trailer and driving some 30 miles one way to the vet is probably not the best for Left eye.(the mare). Told her to just watch her, treat her with her meds and give her some time to recover. I am hoping the fetlock is just terribly sore, not broken.
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post #16 of 95 Old 05-21-2010, 08:49 AM
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There isn't a vet in the area with a portable x-ray machine?
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post #17 of 95 Old 05-21-2010, 09:03 AM
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Wyoming, I am horrified and saddened to read this. Give your daughter my deepest condolences, and I'll be praying that Left Eye makes a full recovery.

Are there no leash laws where she lives? What about livestock protection?

Here in VA, any dog that chases/attacks livestock may legally be shot by the livestock owner, or they can get a court order to have the dogs put down. Generally, people just SSS and don't bother with the courts.

Those dogs are dangerous. They're not just someone's pets who got out and decided to go for a run. They attacked and grievously injured another animal, and that's inexcusable.

What happens if the next time they get out, they injure or kill a child? Saying, "Sorry, they got away from us, and we'll keep them chained up now." won't cut it if that happens.

People that own vicious animals should do the right thing and have them put down. There's no excuse to keep an animal like that alive. They're nothing but ticking time bombs, waiting for another chance to go off.
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Horseluver 250: They just moved to the area, luckily she could find someone to come out last night.
Speedracer: oh yea, I know all about vicious dogs. We have shot them here chasing the horses. The problem with where she lives, it is a residential neighborhood and discharging a firearm there will put her in jail... Stupid huh?
The dogs owners are just stupid, they keep them chained when they feel like it, they let them loose to run, they jump the fences, etc. When asked about it, oh, its my mother in laws dogs, she lets them loose, or they broke the chain, blah blah blah. In other words, they feel no responsibility when the dogs get loose. The first week my daughter was there, the dogs chased my granddaughter down the road, when my daughter started chasing the dog, the owners came out and said"oh he is just dog aggressive". They "rescue" the mean type dogs and keep them in a small yard.... She chased the dogs out of the horses yesterday morning with a pellet gun, the owners were in the yard themselves, but did not call the dogs back until she threatened them with the pellet gun. My daughter did not want to make problems since they just moved in, now she is feeling guilty because Left Eye is hurt and she knows she should have called the cops in the beginning. Unfortunately hindsite hits again.
These folks have even told another neighbor that when they move soon, they are just going to leave the dogs behind since they are too much trouble.
My daughter will be calling the cops again. The sheriff deputy last night acted put out that he had to come out on a call for a horse, so he was not alot of help and probably won't be help the next time
I just feel so helpless so far away.
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I agree 100% with SR. Soo sorry this happened to you. My thoughts are with you and Left Eye
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post #20 of 95 Old 05-21-2010, 09:23 AM
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Dang, that 'discharging a firearm in a residential area' law is good for people, but not so good when there are vicious animals that need to be shot.

So they're just going to move and leave the dogs there to fend for themselves, eh? Wow, such responsible animal owners. NOT!

The problem will resolve itself it that happens, because either the AC will come and get them, or they'll be killed by cars or poisoned by angry livestock owners. Antifreeze is cheap, animals find it to be tasty, and it's deadly.

Not saying I condone the use of it, but it's been utilized before when someone is unable to trap or shoot the offending beasts.
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