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post #11 of 63 Old 07-05-2012, 12:25 PM
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Folks, BOSS = black sunflower seeds.

OP, BOSS is not the best choice, because it's high in omega 6, but lacking omega 3. So instead of BOSS, I'd add cup of canola or veggie oil + flax to her grain (and at this age I wouldn't go with just hay, but feed more nutrition). And no, she doesn't look fat to me on last 2 pics and she doesn't weight 1000 lbs either. If you use measuring tape, with the hay or wormy belly it may give you a wrong estimate.

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post #12 of 63 Old 07-05-2012, 12:27 PM
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Differing opinions. Since the filly has nice covering on her hips I like to see a little bit of rib at this age as it is actually healthier than a fat horse. If you are feeding high protein go easy. Her body is designed for long fiber. Too many grains or overloading the vitamins and minerals can cause rapid growth spurts and you don't really want that as joint problems can develop.
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The most telling detail in the OP's original post is not even the evidence of the photos.

It's that she asks the question "Skinny or growing?" and then goes on to tell us several times, that the filly isn't growing. So, that leaves one answer.

Saddlebag, I like to see young horses on the lean side, and dislike seeing a halter show ring fat yearling or two year old. And I would prefer a three year old to look like a three old - leaner than its mature counterpart.

However, a horse that doesn't grow at all between the age of 3 and 4 and goes from a 5.5 to a 3 on the body score scale in the same period while not growing is not a healthy horse.
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However, a horse that doesn't grow at all between the age of 3 and 4
Just to add... Both my horses went from 13'1 and on skinny side to 14 between 1.5 and 2, and up to 14'3 and 15'1 by 4 yo. So the proper nutrition is a key.
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You really should read more carefully before asking questions that the OP has already stated the answer too.

OP, It sounds like you just have one of those "hard keepers". Free choice hay and the feeds you state are quite the norm, and for another horse, would have them slick and fat. Yours is just not as thrifty with her feed usage.

I have always had good luck with BOSS and Calf Manna for helping keep weight on the less thrifty ones.

Other than being a bit thin, she looks plenty healthy, and cute too boot!!
You might brush up on proper diet and read Maura's post above yours. That horse isn't a hard keeper and if it is it needs to be fed properly. Her vet states that it needs more protein also and her hay doesn't look to be the best it just looks like filler. A horse that age and condition needs more attention given to it's diet and worming.
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I agree that the first step is to get a fecal egg count to determine if worms are an issue. If she hasn't been wormed recently, and the FEC comes up clean, you might consider worming for tapeworms anyway (praziquantel, I believe), since those won't always show up in the test.

I think you're on the right track with her diet, but it needs some tweaking- if she's not already getting free choice hay I'd get as close to it as you're able to do, as well as increase the Empower Balance to 1.5-2 lbs/day. For added calories, my go-to's are rice bran, beet pulp and alfalfa. You can feed any combination of those things but limit rice bran to 2 lbs/day (look for the fortified, stabilized kind), and beet pulp to ~4 lbs/day (dry weight). For alfalfa, you can feed pellets, cubes, or hay- get whatever is most convenient/cheapest in your area.
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You might brush up on proper diet and read Maura's post above yours. That horse isn't a hard keeper and if it is it needs to be fed properly. Her vet states that it needs more protein also and her hay doesn't look to be the best it just looks like filler. A horse that age and condition needs more attention given to it's diet and worming.
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"I was told by my vet to buy some high-protein hay that has some sort of grain in it, like barley, wheat grass, or rye grass. I found some nice rye grass/blue stem mixed round bales that were high in protein. This has put on some weight, and has given her that oh-so-attractive hay belly, but she just doesn't look right to me.

I also read about the benefits of BOSS seeds, and have started gradually adding about a pound of those into her diet. She is also on a pound of Nutrena's Empower Balance grass ration balancer a day. This might not sound like enough for her, but I am slowly increasing the amounts. She is 14HH and approx. 950-1000 lbs. With this she also has 24/7 access to mineral and regular salt. My vet said this is balanced, but is there anything I'm missing? She is UTD on everything.
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post #18 of 63 Old 07-06-2012, 01:49 AM Thread Starter
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PLEASE, PLEASE read my post again. A lot of you are asking and telling me to do things that I've already covered. I've had horses all my life, and this is the only filly that I've owned that has ever had this issue. I came here to get some input, which I have so far gotten and I really appreciate it!

The hay she is on is very good quality, grown by Oklahoma State University and is fed to their horses in their equine program, if that means anything to you all. I can post more detailed pictures of the hay, but I already know it's good quality.

She has been tube-wormed, checked for parasites, and is on a very strict worming schedule. She isn't wormy.

Ginger gets her hay 24/7. And she is on a ration balancer and black oil sunflower seeds. She also has 24/7 access to salt blocks. When I put her on grain, such as Safechoice, or TC, or Purina, she seems to get skinnier. Odd, isn't it? But, I would like to buy some rice bran to add to her diet as I think that might help. But I just don't know with her.


Here is a picture from today. She seems to look much better to me! But apparently my opinion needs some work...so tell me what you all think! And also, one person said her back is protruding, and it's not. She is kind of slab-sided, and it seems that way in the pictures. I'll take some better full-view pics tomorrow!
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This is probably 100% unrelated but have you had her tested for HYPP/know her status?

There's a member on this board who, I believe, had two horses (mother and son) get skinnier and skinnier until they eventually died - even though they were getting plenty of hay and grain. After they each died, I believe it turned out that they were H/H and N/H and their symptoms were actually symptoms of their HYPP...

So, that might be something to be sure of -if you aren't already- just to be safe.

ETA- I don't think she's deathly skinny or anything -according to the "today" picture- but like some other posters mentioned, the fact that she's not growing but is fluctuating a ton weight-wise concerns me...

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This is probably 100% unrelated but have you had her tested for HYPP/know her status?

There's a member on this board who, I believe, had two horses (mother and son) get skinnier and skinnier until they eventually died - even though they were getting plenty of hay and grain. After they each died, I believe it turned out that they were H/H and N/H and their symptoms were actually symptoms of their HYPP...

So, that might be something to be sure of -if you aren't already- just to be safe.
Oh my...well she doesn't go back to any Impressive blood, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. I will call my vet in the morning and make an appointment for her to do so- she's already coming out to pull coggins so I'm sure she can do this test as well.

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