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post #41 of 63 Old 07-07-2012, 01:17 AM Thread Starter
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Emilyy, I live in Stillwater and buy my grass hay here too, and it's good hay, I agree with you there. BUT........some horses just don't so well on strictly grass hay. The last pic you put up of your horse looks a whole lot better than the first ones, she's actually at a pretty decent weight. She could use some more but not desperately.

I like to keep my feeding as simple as possible which is why you won't find me feeding 13 different products. I choose Safeguard, Strategy, Omolene 400 and such because they are very balanced and do a good job of meeting the horses requirements.

If your horse loses weight on those products, them I'm willing to BET MONEY that you're not following the feeding directions on the bags.

For a 1,000 lb horse (assuming that's where you want her) you would feed:

Safechoice - 5 to 7.5 lbs per day, (their directions for Performance Ligth Exercise, .5 to .75 per 100 lbs of body weight). That's the original formula not one of the newer specialty formulas.

Strategy - Professional Formula GX - .75 to 1.5% of weight/day = 7.5 lbs - 15 lbs/day

Ultium Competition - 6 lbs to 11.5 lbs per day

Omolene 400 - 13 lbs/day for light work

Omolene 400 is a complete feed and doesn't need to have hay fed with it, which is why is such a good one for putting on weight. When I get a thin horse in, I like to use the 400 and still let them have grass hay as desired, by the time they get to a good weight, I can cut back some on the 400 and feed more hay. Just make sure you don't cut so much that the nutrition balance is upset.

All of these feeds have pre & pro biotics in them, no need to add them or vitamins or minerals. Just salt, feed bucket, hay and water. Very simple.
13lbs a day of the Omolene? That's not too much? And it was my understanding that horses need hay, or some kind of forage, to keep their digestive tracts healthy. Right? I fed a complete feed once from Purina, cut the hay out(because I simply didn't have any, it was in the middle of the drought) and she got super thin. I was feeding her the right amount as directed per the bag(I'm a nutritionist junkie and always follow labels!), and it wasn't until I was able to get some cheap hay from Atwoods that she actually started to bloom out. Not nessesarily weight-wise, but she wasn't "sunken in" in her flank areas anymore.

I just hope I can get to a diet that works for her. I want her to be the best she can be and not fluctuate like this. Thank you for saying she looks good, I've(as you may know) have worked really hard on her. I don't think she looks any different now than any of the other horses at the barn I work at(health-wise). But who knows, there's always some "horse-guru" out there that will tell you something different
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Well, I tube worm the beginning of every year to every one of my horses to try and rule out any parasites. I've done all I can do as far as worming and parasite-prevention goes. Any more I just might get called crazy! I think it's just like with anyone else on here, you can't prevent everything, but you can take measures to do your best at it and that is what I've done with her.


Is this a Typo?? Tube worm beginning of every year?? If that is the case then that could be alot of the problem
Sorry, every OTHER year, she has only been tube wormed once, and that was when I got her because she had not been taken care of. This is what my vet practices. I've never had a horse react badly to it.

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Sorry, every OTHER year, she has only been tube wormed once, and that was when I got her because she had not been taken care of. This is what my vet practices. I've never had a horse react badly to it.

Ok now i'm confused Tube worm I'm guessing you mean done with nasogastric tube by vet?? Ok she's been done only once since you have had her.... I'm hoping she has had more than that,so how about other kind of worming like tube/syringe PASTE wormer does she get?& how often?

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Ok now i'm confused Tube worm I'm guessing you mean done with nasogastric tube by vet?? Ok she's been done only once since you have had her.... I'm hoping she has had more than that,so how about other kind of worming like tube/syringe PASTE wormer does she get?& how often?
Yes, only once. It was just Ivermectin in liquid form.

I have also used a PowerPac on her. Again, I've only had her for a year.

I also deworm every six weeks, in the spring I use Moxidectin, summer pyrantel, fall and winter months I use Ivermectin. I also use a tapewormer in december like quest plus or equimax.

What is your suggestion, paintedpastures? And what are you confused about? This schedule has worked for me, and I have done fec counts, blood counts, you name it. I will be doing more when my vet comes out, however. Thanks

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Ok powerpac is good. You did a huge tube everyday for 5 days right? That will get rid of the worms that will not show up in a fecal. But it should be done once a year unless she's on a daily dewormer. Add grain to her diet. You need to feed grain PLUS all she can eat hay.
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Ok powerpac is good. You did a huge tube everyday for 5 days right? That will get rid of the worms that will not show up in a fecal. But it should be done once a year unless she's on a daily dewormer. Add grain to her diet. You need to feed grain PLUS all she can eat hay.
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Yep, five days straight! She hated it! Lol(:

But I will be going today to pick up some JuniorGlo! Thanks everyone for the feedback!
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Yep, five days straight! She hated it! Lol(:

But I will be going today to pick up some JuniorGlo! Thanks everyone for the feedback!
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How long ago did you do that? Good luck with the new feed. I hope it works.
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Yes, only once. It was just Ivermectin in liquid form.

I have also used a PowerPac on her. Again, I've only had her for a year.

I also deworm every six weeks, in the spring I use Moxidectin, summer pyrantel, fall and winter months I use Ivermectin. I also use a tapewormer in december like quest plus or equimax.

What is your suggestion, paintedpastures? And what are you confused about? This schedule has worked for me, and I have done fec counts, blood counts, you name it. I will be doing more when my vet comes out, however. Thanks
Nothing now You finally gave the info The problem was You made it sound like you wormed only once a year,I was trying to get clarification about that!
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Why is there not a /facepalm smilie on this forum?? Doesn't anybody read any more. The horse is NOT on "hay only"... oh, never mind. I give up.

OP, good luck to you with your hard keeper. Just keep doing what you are doing, working with your vet and slowly upping everything you are giving her until you find the amounts she needs to be fat and slick!

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Sorry, every OTHER year, she has only been tube wormed once, and that was when I got her because she had not been taken care of. This is what my vet practices. I've never had a horse react badly to it.
OMG but your horse is just a hard keeper and I REEAALY doubt it could have worms
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