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  • Ration balancer and weight gainers for horses

 
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    09-29-2008, 12:00 PM
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I like all the info I've just been reading and Peggysue did a great job on research for you; but I want disagree with one point in particular.

I've been feeding a mixture of sweetfeed/pellet in a 10% protein level for well over 20 years. I've never had a horse colic from it nor have I had any behavioral problems associated with it's use. My horses are turned out 24/7 and when pasture is in poor shape I supplement with hay. If a horse is in need of weight I will feed about 2 1/2lb x 2 per day (I actually weigh their feed). As they come up to the proper weight I'll cut back, when I'm comfortable that they are maintaining, to about 1/2lb X 2. I'll adjust according to the work load and their weight.

When I got Bobo (pedigree listed in my signature), as an example, he was about 100 lb under weight and it took about 2 months to build him up. I ride him about 5 days per week and I now have to keep him in the paddock at night rather then the pasture because he is gaining too much weight. Foraging is still the best way to put weight on a horse but sweetfeed should not be a problem. And I think it gets a bad rap.

There are always examples of sweetfeed problems as Luvs2ride had but there can be problems associated with any feed.
at the amounts you are feeding they are most likely lacking NUTRITIONALLY even though you can't SEE it... but you also have the option of good pasture which helps TONS!!!
     
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    09-29-2008, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Peggysue

At the amounts you are feeding they are most likely lacking NUTRITIONALLY even though you can't SEE it... but you also have the option of good pasture which helps TONS!!!
Hi Peggy, You're 100% correct which is why I always use supplements to go with my feeding.
     
    09-29-2008, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Peggysue

At the amounts you are feeding they are most likely lacking NUTRITIONALLY even though you can't SEE it... but you also have the option of good pasture which helps TONS!!!
Hi Peggy, You're 100% correct which is why I always use supplements to go with my feeding.
LOL at the amounts you are feeding you honestly would save money by using a ration type supplemet and not really need anything else ...

Think 1lb of Kent's Horsego32 a day at 47 cents a lb

With free choice forage
Click picture to enlarge!!
     
    09-29-2008, 01:49 PM
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LOL you really gotta love easy keepers and pasture.

If you click on VIEW for my pics you will see Bobo under saddle that was taken last week. The two shots of his head were taken 3 months apart. The shot without his bridle was taken the week I got him and the one with was taken last week. There is a huge difference in his disposition as well as the physical.
     
    09-29-2008, 02:16 PM
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I wish I had good pasture mine are on hay year round if I am lucky I get about a month of no hay ....
     
    09-29-2008, 09:36 PM
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They are on pasture. My question was about Weight Buliders not about feed. I have talked to many people about grain and I have found one that works for me. I don't mean to sound rude. I was reading a book and it said horses don't need higher than a 10% protien.
     
    09-29-2008, 11:07 PM
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they are on pasture. My question was about Weight Buliders not about feed. I have talked to many people about grain and I have found one that works for me. I don't mean to sound rude. I was reading a book and it said horses don't need higher than a 10% protien.
It's not about the % at all

5lbs of 10% is .50lbs of protien
1lb of 32% is .32lbs of protien
     
    09-29-2008, 11:16 PM
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When it says 10% it means 10% of TOTAL diet including you hay/pasture more grass hay is about 8% protien if we are lucky :)
     
    09-29-2008, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Erin_And_Jasper
they are on pasture. My question was about Weight Buliders not about feed. I have talked to many people about grain and I have found one that works for me. I don't mean to sound rude. I was reading a book and it said horses don't need higher than a 10% protien.
They don't need higher protein as in 10% vs 16% of the same feed. HOWEVER, you should be feeding 4-6 lbs a day of that feed for the optimum nutrition of the horse. With a ration balancer, the protein level is higher, 30-32%, but you only feed 1-2 lbs a day for total nutrition. So the horse is getting the same amount of protein either way, but more complete nutrition and better food with the ration balancer.

Think of it this way. It's like eating a whole chicken, vs. a casserole that has a whole chicken in it. You're getting the same amount of chicken either way, but the casserole has a whole lot more stuff in it that you really don't need.

Horses on adaquate hay and/or pasture don't NEED all that extra junk in sweet feed or feed pellets. If you get him OFF that stuff, he'll actually gain weight quicker, and he'll be getting more proper nutrition.

The best way to put weight on a horse is to start with a good base diet. The best diet for a horse is one with all the QUALITY hay and/or pasture he can eat (or at least 2.5% of his body weight a day, 25 lbs for an average 1,000 lb horse). After that, you should add as little as possible for complete nutrition. A ration balancer, plus whole oats or hay pellets if more calories are needed, is one of the best ways to accomplish that.

Weight gainers won't do squat if you don't have a quality diet to start with. It's like giving a skinny kid chips and candy along with white bread to gain weight. Sure, he'll gain weight and have plenty of energy, but he won't be very healthy...

Now, if you have good hay and pasture like iride has, then no, you probably don't need much of anything extra, except maybe some vitamins "just in case". But not all hay is created equal, and most people's pastures aren't fertilized for optimum livestock production.
     
    09-30-2008, 04:43 PM
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Ok nevermind.
     

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