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    03-21-2013, 01:59 PM
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Yearling
Exclamation My mare might have laminitis?

My mare came up lame this week, she is a 6 yr old draft cross.
There hasn't been any heat on the leg, coronet band, or outside of hoof, and no swelling. Today when I picked her hooves out I realized that one was a little bit warm, while the others aren't. (its the lame leg also)
She has no issue standing on it its mostly an issue actually using it to walk. . .does this sound like laminitis? Or a sign of something hurt inside?
Vet is going to be here at 2 today.
The only thing I have changed in her diet is switching her to Nutrena's Performance SafeChoice Perform Horse Feed by Nutrena, she gets a tad over 3 lbs a day, I switched because she needs to gain weight and this has a high fat content but should I switch her to something else?
She also gets 1 lb alfalfa pellets and 2 lbs beet pulp (morning beet pulp, alfalfa with dinner) on top of their local cut hay. . .is this causing it? (if it is indeed laminitis)
I have had a horse with laminitis before and the heat was way more intense then the heat of her sole, and he didn't want to stand on them, but she is standing on hers.

What should I feed for a horse that needs more fat but might have laminitis?
     
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    03-21-2013, 03:41 PM
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Yearling
So I will definitively be taking her off the SafeChoice Preform as it has a high sugar and starch content. . .probably go for their Special Care. . . And stop alfalfa pellets (?)
     
    03-21-2013, 06:19 PM
  #3
Yearling
Its a hoof abscess not laminitis
     
    03-21-2013, 06:46 PM
  #4
Yearling
You did a good job of keeping your thread going there Thyme

I was going to suggest abscess after I read your first post, but then I'd just sound like a know-it-all, so I won't
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    03-21-2013, 07:21 PM
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Green Broke
Just saw the thread and thought " abscess"

As for your ideas about changing the feed: fat in feed doesn't cause laminitis. Alfalfa pellets and beetpulp without added molasses wont, either. High NSC does. Grain, grainhay, stressed pasture grass. Overweight horse.
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    03-22-2013, 04:41 AM
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Trained
Hi Thyme,

I was going to wonder what made you think of laminitis and suggest an abscess as a possibility too.

If you don't know about laminitis, it would be a good move to educate yourself about this, as it's such a common problem & if only people were proactive about it & recognised the 'early warning' signs, I believe most of the major 'founders' could be avoided. Likewise to a large degree with diet & nutrition - such important factors in overall health.

Articles of Interest Home & Katy Watts | Safergrass.org are 3 among many good sites to get you started.

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SafeChoice Perform Horse Feed by Nutrena, she gets a tad over 3 lbs a day, I switched because she needs to gain weight and this has a high fat content but should I switch her to something else?
She also gets 1 lb alfalfa pellets and 2 lbs beet pulp (morning beet pulp, alfalfa with dinner) on top of their local cut hay.
Yeah, 'Safe Choice' is... not really. It's lower than many feeds in NSC but that's only like saying Macca's is healthier than... If you're going to feed this or anything else grainy/starchy, or oil or such, which is difficult for horses to digest, it's vital to feed in small, frequent meals, rather than only 1-2 large meals daily. It's best to feed anything like this, so I'd also divide the beet & alfalfa into equal feeds over more meals if possible too.

Not sure about that amount of alfalfa & beet pulp for a clydie & it also depends on how much weight she may need, but you could possibly feed more of these. You don't want her gaining weight too quickly & it's also important to realise at 6yo she may be still going through 'gangly' stages, being immature.

Grain isn't generally the best thing for putting weight on a horse and if she gets free choice hay as well as the alfalfa & beet pulp(which are both high energy, good for conditioning), I'd be inclined to think there was something else wrong if she wasn't doing well. I'm guessing at her age she's in little work? Of course teeth & effective worming is important, but it could be that the starchy feed, or otherwise infrequent large, rich meals has caused gut issues. She may have an ulcer or such. It could also be nutritional imbalance that has caused her failure to thrive - a good nutritional supp that will balance her particular diet is valuable.

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What should I feed for a horse that needs more fat but might have laminitis?
You can add fat directly as oil or such, but horses don't have the enzymes naturally to digest it, so you need to build up very gradually over a week or 2, not feed much (perhaps up to a cup per day) & feed it little & often. But you don't have to feed fat to produce it. Feeds such as beet pulp, alfalfa, rice bran, etc, are high energy/calorie without being high in starch/sugar & if input is greater than output, it converts to fat.
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    03-22-2013, 01:59 PM
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Yearling
Hey thanks for the replies! She had her teeth done and everything a couple months ago, it is harder to tell with her winter coat my vet was happy to see her in this condition the last post he also saw her and wanted more lbs on her. She did just have a growth spurt and she is in pretty much no work at all right now. Lol like a short trail ride every two months.
I try to feed them throughout the day so they are continually munching as we don't have pasture.
We lost a horse to lamintis (the final straw for a pony with a lot of health concerns) and I just remember how his hooves were really warm and I am like a hypochondriac for my horses...luckily I have had the same two vets for 15 years so they know that
He assured me she is good and says she has great feet and shoukdnt have problems.
He said I should keep her on the Preform grain (agree?) As she still is maturing and will be starting to ride a lot more as things dry up .
Thanks!
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    03-22-2013, 02:04 PM
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My farrier said that this is the season of abcesses. The hoof softens with rain, but the ground may still be frozen with hard spots or rocks. For some reason, it makes more abcesses in Spring. At least around here it does.
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