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        01-22-2007, 03:35 PM
      #21
    Foal
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        01-22-2007, 07:38 PM
      #22
    Yearling
    That sounds really good, can't wait for pictures!
         
        02-06-2007, 02:37 PM
      #23
    Foal
    Well the vet came out to check Onyx's teeth yesterday. In the 12 years that I've had her she has never needed them floated and he looked at her this time too and they still don't need to be floated. We talked for quite a while about her body condition and I showed him everything I've been feeding. He did a physical exam and everything seemed great until he took her temp. It was 97.4 - low. Especially considering she's double blanketed and eats constantly. So he took a fecal sample and a blood sample. He's guessing she might be anemic. I'm waiting to hear about the lab results now...

    In the meantime, she's turning her nose up at the alfalfa again. Darn picky mare. I will probably end up just feeding the orchard grass and switching grain. He said she really shouldn't need any more calories than she's already getting. If she does end up being anemic I'll put her on Red Cell too. I hope that's all that's wrong. I'll post as soon as I hear.
         
        02-06-2007, 08:00 PM
      #24
    Foal
    regarding my old lady

    Hi- I have problems keeping weight on one of my horses, he's into his thirties got hardly any teeth left, so I've found feeding him a senior feed-manna senior to be exact-which I soak to a mash and also add soaked alfalfa cubes,this is fed in 2 feeds per day, this has helped him gain some weight,though I know at this stage he will never be plump again-hope that helps-good luck.
         
        02-07-2007, 07:38 PM
      #25
    Foal
    The news isn't good. :( The vet thinks Onyx has a tumor on her thyroid. Her bloodwork showed high levels of calcium and pretty normal levels for everything else. Her talked with specalists from internal medicine and they thing that the tumor is the best explanation. He is coming out again on Monday to take another blood sample and test it further. If it does end up being a tumor, the only "fix" is surgery. Not only can I not afford thousands of dollars of surgery, but how can I justify putting a 27 year old mare through that kind of stress? I don't know what to do and this is what I was most afraid of.
         
        02-20-2007, 05:52 PM
      #26
    Foal
    It seems she lost a fair bit of weight before you started the antibiotics according to those pictures? Infection is a very high metabolic state and results in lots of calories being burned. The cattle I used for my PhD research got some infections and they lost heaps of weight. I had learned about this in class but it was amazing to see it in action.

    Antibiotics will kill the beneficial bacteria in your horses gut leaving it less able to digest its feed especially forage. This on top of an older horses inability to digest feed efficiently anyway puts the older horse at a real disadvantge.

    So your horse had 3 things going against it 1) the high metabolic rate of infection, 2) it lost its good gut bacteris so couldn't digest feed as well 3) she's older and isn't efficient at digesting feed anyway.

    As everyone has been saying, this will take time and you obviously are slowly winning the battle. You could consider a probiotic to get the good bacteria working again. I have seen good results with Forco and its relatively cheap. I have heard of some people using plain yoghurt but your horse might really turn her nose up at that if she doens't like sugar beat.

    As you come into spring and the weather improves she should continue to improve. If you have access to grass in the spring that will really help.

    On an aside when I was a kid we have a pony with terrible arthritis we gave him Rhus Tox. Its a homeopathic treatment for artheritis and it worked a treat. I don't know of the science behind this but know we personally had good luck with it. He went from being unable to be shod behind to being shoable for another 2 years. Eventually it didn't work and we switched to bute.
         
        02-20-2007, 07:35 PM
      #27
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by savepitbulls
    The news isn't good. :( The vet thinks Onyx has a tumor on her thyroid. Her bloodwork showed high levels of calcium and pretty normal levels for everything else. Her talked with specalists from internal medicine and they thing that the tumor is the best explanation. He is coming out again on Monday to take another blood sample and test it further. If it does end up being a tumor, the only "fix" is surgery. Not only can I not afford thousands of dollars of surgery, but how can I justify putting a 27 year old mare through that kind of stress? I don't know what to do and this is what I was most afraid of.
    Poor poor baby. Hopefully something will give. I believe things happen for a reason and I trust your decisions. Stay strong. :(
         
        02-20-2007, 09:28 PM
      #28
    Foal
    I seemed to miss the whole 2nd page of posts on this topic so didn't see the bad news re potential tumor. It may be possible to regulate her tyroid by drugs without surgery. Ask the vet about feeding iodine. Also read up about hyperparathyroidism this is where the thyroid is over active and if my dusty brain serves me right its hyper that causes weight loss versus hypo (low) that causes weight gain. There will be a large nutritional component to managing this. It may not be cureable without surgery but it might at least be possible to keep her stable.
         
        02-20-2007, 11:54 PM
      #29
    Foal
    Huh, I'll have to talk to the vet about that. Sounds interesting and hey if it works then I'm all for it. I was going to take a new picture of her today after I got her cleaned up but it was raining and the barn was too dark for the camera on my phone. She is looking considerably better. :) I have switched her to Allegra senior (with probiotics) and the vet said I could safely increase the amount by quite a bit. She's getting 1 1/2 of the 3# coffee cans 2x a day now and I'm still feeding her all the orchard and sudan grass she can eat. She still doesn't like alfalfa but the vet said not to woory about it. She's getting plenty of calories and should continue to improve in spite of the tumor. Sounds like I might actually be winning this battle.
         
        03-08-2007, 10:15 PM
      #30
    Foal
    My old lady

    Have you checked her kidney and liver function (blood test)?
         

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