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    10-09-2009, 11:26 PM
  #11
Weanling
Just a note to add on, Navicular disease doesn't usually just occur suddenly, it's usually years, or months in the making before the first mild symptoms arrive. Also, it's one of the more treatable/curable "diseases" if caught sooner rather than later, and many can carry on quite well even with internal damage if you can correct the trim enough to alleviate the symptoms. In the beginning, there is rarely permanant damage present, it's a disease of time and poor trimming/shoeing or other care related issues.

An abscess can be notoriously hard to find, even by a vet, and can cause swelling in the leg. How long after that "last ride" did she come up lame? It could be a stone bruise that is brewing into an abscess. I wouldn't assume Navicular just yet, it doesn't "fit" the usual route if she's never been symtomatic before now.
     
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    10-10-2009, 07:56 AM
  #12
Started
Thank-you very much. I do not know much of Navicular however I've been having the thought that it cannot be something she woke up three legged lame with one day.
Its been raining a lot here so her last ride was a week before she came up lame, and it was just around the farm trails and riding arena here (Rocks are here to however).
He did say just in case to soak her foot in warm water and e salts to draw any kind of abscess, which I've done twice.

Any other ideas on what this could be or what could help her?

She is 22 and of course ageing, getting a little stiffer, needing longer warm ups however she has never been lame, sore or off in the twelve years I've owned her (Short of a bad/short trim once or twice)
     
    10-10-2009, 10:23 AM
  #13
Green Broke
It may very well be an abscess. My horse is going through that right now actually, and has been for about 2 weeks. The vet was able to find hers with hoof testers and dig it out, but there's still something in there that needs to come out apparently since she's still a little off, on her front right.

What the vet told me to do is soak her foot in epsom salts (I put it in a bucket of warm water and have Sandie stick her foot in it and stand there -- although not all horses are as easy as Sandie with that!) for 15-20 minutes twice a day (or at least once if you're like me and have to work 8-5). Then put ichthamol all over the bottom of the foot, pack with some cotton, and wrap with vet wrap. Just make sure that you don't have pressure on the coronary band when you wrap...I like to wrap the whole foot, then cut too little slits on the front sides to relieve pressure from the wrap on the coronary band, to be safe.

I also just found this online and am going to order it for my horse, sure does look much easier and only $20!

Hoof Wraps - Hoof Care from SmartPak Equine
     
    10-11-2009, 12:22 AM
  #14
Banned
My horse Babee is 13 and she's had navicular syndrom for quit sometime and well I must say its a pain with vet bills but its worth keeping that horse alive to fight through it.

My horse is now sound and loving life and being a horse for a while until I can move and keep her with me :)

Just make sure you keep update on the trim and keep a good trim either the special shoes or no shoes.

But without x-rays you can't know for sure if its navicular you know? It could be anything else an absess sometimes you can't even know for sure if its an absess.

For a long time my horse was lame and couldn't figure it out. Well I had x-rays done she said she had navicular well then my other vet found an absess in her foot. We got her to heel and she's sound and walk/trot/canter..

But also your mare is alot older which means soundess issues but if she never has had any soundness issues then turns up lame all the sudden it could be somthing else I very much doubt its navicualr honestly
     
    10-12-2009, 03:53 AM
  #15
Trained
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I guess I don't get how we get this pain and limping to go away though, is this something that just flairs up and is treated with a pain killer (IE the bute he has put her on)? She has been limping for a week now with no changes and I don't see how it will just go away?
I obviously didn't explain well enough then. You might understand better from studying hoofrehab.com. Basically, good trimming to facilitate proper hoof function and protecting/padding his feet so that he can *comfortably* land heel first, while providing enough exercise so that he will begin to build strong digital cushions & lateral cartilages in order to support himself.

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Thank-you very much. I do not know much of Navicular however I've been having the thought that it cannot be something she woke up three legged lame with one day.
Agreed. Re vet thinking it was an abscess until hoof testers, I'm interested to know how he would differentiate between pain in the heel/frog due to 'nav' or due to abscess?

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It turned out he did not have navicular(there was no sinking or rotating of the coffin bone) but there was some sensitivity.
I think you have your wires x-ed appy. Sinking or 'rotation' of coffin bone is founder. Navicular is diagnosed with xray by navicular bone & ddft damage. On that note, it appears the tendon & then bone damage is the result of toe first landings, which in turn is due to the heel sensitivity. While bone & tendon damage is not able to be repaired, it doesn't seem to effect the horse's comfort or ability. Horses can become fully sound with the right care even with permanent bone damage.
     

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