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    06-06-2013, 12:29 AM
  #11
Trained
Yeah so it looks like they might be marginally better than when you got him, tho hard to tell with that angle. I worked out how to do screen shots, so... as if I have all the time in the world, as if I'm not on my lunchbreak with better things to do...
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    06-06-2013, 03:40 PM
  #12
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I honestly have to say that the description reminds me of my mare with chronic laminitis. Her lameness comes and goes and can seem mysterious and one-sided. Sometimes she doesn't look lame, but feels lethargic. Often it doesn't cause heat in her feet, or even much in terms of visible changes to the hoof. The ridges in the hoof are common with laminitis, and the flaring a little more than halfway down indicates some separation of the hoof wall. This horse also looks long in the toe, and under run at the heel, like he has been in shoes for a really long time. With a foot like that you'd expect at least 6 mo to a full year to transition to barefoot with a good barefoot trimmer, so it's no surprise to me that he wasn't comfortable. The horse will probably not be sound to ride for a few months while the hoof wall reattaches. After that, he's going to need boots on the front, probably with pads for several more months. You're also going to have to address whatever metabolic issues the horse has that are causing the laminitis, or he'll go on like this. I might bring him into a dry lot and feed him soaked or tested low NSC hay rather than letting him go out with a grazing muzzle. My mare doesn't handle any grass well at all, even on an overgrazed pasture that has very little left in it. Found this out the hard way. Has your vet done any blood work on him? This may help you assess the cause. With the metabolic issues addressed and good trimming, many foundered horses can go on to be sound if you're patient.

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    06-06-2013, 06:17 PM
  #13
Green Broke
We don't have any dry lots at our place. I'm having the vet out on Monday to draw blood for possible lymes. I'm not even positive if it is the
Metabolic issues causing the lameness. Hopefully the vet can give me more insight Monday but the lameness is on and off. No heat on hooves or pulse every time we check.
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    06-06-2013, 07:12 PM
  #14
Green Broke
So I know I will get criticism for this BUT my mare went on and off lame (not fully lame but just off) for a few weeks 36 hours after starting her on flax oil. The timeline fit and I didn't realize what caused it until weeks later. So she was on and off for a few weeks. Luckily I write the date on all my horse products on when I started using them so I could pinpoint a timeline. I took her off flax and within a few days she was fine and it never resurfaced again. This was almost a year ago now.

There was another member here that I talked with that has had experience with flax doing the same thing. There is no science really for me to tell you but it might be worth pulling the flax from his diet for a few weeks and see what happens.
     
    06-06-2013, 08:46 PM
  #15
Green Broke
It's just so fustersting. I can't ride or show like I intended and he is always having issues. :(
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    06-06-2013, 08:51 PM
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Green Broke
I know how you feel. My mare kicked herself out in pasture and did trauma to her tendon. And now random swelling in joints. My endurance hopes are out for this year and I'm starting to think she might be too old for what I want to do, sigh.

They sure do keep us on our toes.
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    06-06-2013, 09:08 PM
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It's just so fustersting. I can't ride or show like I intended and he is always having issues. :(
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Don't feel to bad iam one of the can't ride my horse is lame crew. He's laminitic right now so summers here and NO riding. Frustration beyond beleif .........
     
    06-06-2013, 09:18 PM
  #18
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I would suggest finding another farrier. Nothing against the one you have but (me not being a farrier) would shorten the toe and raise the heel. Also, with the mention of that rotation, I'm wondering if you need some type of corrective shoeing. Did the vet mention any special shoes or instructions?
     
    06-06-2013, 09:21 PM
  #19
Green Broke
The farrier I'm using now has only trimmed him once. I've gone through 3 different ones so far and when ya think ya got a good one, ya don't. Lol. I'm having the vet out Monday. Last time we talked about his feet he was shoeless and he was sound (what I thought) so she didn't say anything. But will see what she has to say on Monday. Sigh...
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    06-06-2013, 10:55 PM
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...and raise the heel. Also, with the mention of that rotation, I'm wondering...
I'm wondering why ever would you want to further 'rotate' the hoof by adding higher heels to the equation. Shortening toes(from in front, not ground surface(at least without more info) is vital, as is somehow allowing those heels to relax back more vertically. Saying somehow because I don't know how you'd do it if he's shod, never seen underrun heels corrected with shoes.

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So I know I will get criticism for this BUT my mare went on and off lame (not fully lame but just off) for a few weeks 36 hours after starting her on flax oil.
No criticism here. Sure there's no proof, little anecdotal evidence to my knowledge(only heard you say it) & may have been purely coincidence, but certainly worth considering(Spirit too). May be a rare reaction or something.
     

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