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post #21 of 31 Old 06-07-2013, 05:48 AM Thread Starter
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So how bad off do you think he is judging by his feet and the rings? I'm so nervous for when the vet comes out. :/
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It's really hard to say without being able to handle them or without radiographs, but I think that with a good trimmer (barefoot trained, preferably) and proper diet (or removing your trigger, whichever) that he'll recover. It takes time though. I don't think it's too bad, almost sub-clinical. You can make a dry lot out of portable electric fence or cattle panels pretty cheaply if you need to. If you can't find a barefoot trimmer in your area, it is definitely possible to learn to do it yourself. There are a lot of good websites out there, and it sounds like a lot of knowledgeable barefoot people on this forum. You could probably trim conservatively and post pics and get help. I think the first step is talking to the vet, then getting him out of those shoes and trimmed.
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So do you think the lameness is due to the previous rotation? I have him on a diet that the vet recommended he be on but he may need to be on a stricter diet then that. There is no place I will be able to make a dry lot so if that is the case I may end up having to move him. :/
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Not so much the previous rotation. I think he has ongoing laminitis that may or may not be causing further rotation. The previous rotation indicates that he's had it before, as do the rings in his hoof. I would guess he's IR, but your vet can do blood tests to confirm. The way you're managing him isn't necessarily bad, but it's not working for him. There could be something else going on, so you'll have to talk to your vet. I think proper trimming will also help, but the underlying issue needs to be addressed.

As far as getting him off the grass, is it not possible to put a few cattle panels together in the pasture and keep him in there? Those panels are cheap and easy to handle, and he'd be able to touch noses with his buddies. You'd have to bring him water and hand walk him, so it's more work, but really anything will be. I think the grass is not helping him right now.
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You should really think about taking him off the flax for a few weeks. It certainly won't hurt anything to do it.
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Not so much the previous rotation. I think he has ongoing laminitis that may or may not be causing further rotation. The previous rotation indicates that he's had it before, as do the rings in his hoof. I would guess he's IR, but your vet can do blood tests to confirm. The way you're managing him isn't necessarily bad, but it's not working for him. There could be something else going on, so you'll have to talk to your vet. I think proper trimming will also help, but the underlying issue needs to be addressed.

As far as getting him off the grass, is it not possible to put a few cattle panels together in the pasture and keep him in there? Those panels are cheap and easy to handle, and he'd be able to touch noses with his buddies. You'd have to bring him water and hand walk him, so it's more work, but really anything will be. I think the grass is not helping him right now.
I know that he's had laminitis before as my pervious farrier told me he could tell by the stretching in his white line. So it has happend before. He may be IR and I'm hoping the vet will be able to shed some insight on this cause its so fusterating. I'm not sure if ill be able to set up panels. I board my horse and they are very touchy about what happens in the paddocks and such. They're afraid it may look "trashy" and want it to have a nice appearance to potential boarders. Sigh... Now, he doesn't have any classic signs of IR. no cresty neck or fatty deposits on tail head.
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You should really think about taking him off the flax for a few weeks. It certainly won't hurt anything to do it.
I think I will try that.
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Hopefully you can talk to the BO and work something out about putting him up temporarily at least. If not, it sounds like he'll probably stay pasture sound with a trim until you can figure something out. Sometimes we have to do what we can.
The flax thing is sort of a good point. What if he's allergic to something, or sensitive? Laminitis really begins in the gut, not the hoof.
You might consider putting him on pergolide? It's meant for Cushings/pre-Cushings horses and sometimes it helps horses with chronic laminits. I think one of the tests for Cushings can trigger laminitis in some horses, so be careful with that. Anyway, it might help enough that your current management would be ok. It is a little expensive though, and there's no guarantee that it will work.

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He is currently pasture sound. Always has been even without shoes. But once he trots you can see it slightly as he will bob his head. Then he will lower it into a headset and the lameness seems to disappear. It's so very odd.
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So low and behold the vet suspects he has navicular. :/ does anyone have any expierenced with this? He's on 60 pills of isox a day for life and 1gram of bute am+pm for 2 weeks, then 1g of bute in Am for 2 weeks, then getting switched to previcox.
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