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post #21 of 66 Old 07-01-2012, 09:04 PM
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Hope all turns out well soon for you and your horse! So sorry, but glad you got it diagnosed. Now you know what you are dealing with.
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post #22 of 66 Old 07-01-2012, 09:09 PM
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JUst remember, if your mare is pure QH, just because the sire is N/N for hypp, the mare must be clear also or your mare could be N/H........ A carrier.
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post #23 of 66 Old 07-01-2012, 10:41 PM
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I'm glad you finally got some answers and hope she feels much better soon!

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post #24 of 66 Old 07-02-2012, 05:24 AM
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You stated that the Vet/Chiro saw her. Was she adjusted? While she's off will she be on anti-inflamatories? The reason I ask is often there can be bruising of the tissue around the spine, this can put pressure on the spinal cord, discs and nerves. Reducing the swelling can improve the situation. Cold packs and heat treatments can help the healing as well. We have had to have five horses adjusted by our Chiropractors in the last 10 months, some more than once. Three of the five for hip, back and wither issues. When the swelling is reduced it will be easier to determine the extent of the muscle, disc, and/or nerve damage. Therapuetic massage may be of benefit then. Acupunture could be of help as well. I wouldn't have her adjusted until she has been x-rayed, that will rule out any fractures, compressed discs, and spinal injuries. Ask a vet if it could be a pinched nerve(s). Talk to other local horse folks perhaps they can recommend a vet who has some experience in this area. Best wishes for her speedy recovery. Keep us posted and I will pray for you both.
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post #25 of 66 Old 07-02-2012, 09:04 AM
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So glad you have some answers. Hope she is on the road to recovery.
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post #26 of 66 Old 07-02-2012, 03:46 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, so ill give you all the best update as i can. About 3 months ago, my mare rolled into her panels and was down all night in the rain. My parents found her the next morning, just about on her death bed. I was in hawaii at that time. She had abrasions on the front of her pasterns, assuming they came from trying to get up. I got home about two months later, and the abrasions were still there. Fast forward to june 13th...we took her to oregon state university to be seen by the vet and students there. All of her blood work was fine, her cardio exam seemed normal, she was not sore anywhere on her back or hips, and she checked out clean on neurological problems as well. But, she did score a 2 out of 5 in the lameness exam due to being lame in her back legs, mostly her right hind. And she does have some swelling on her rear tendon sheaths, but that could just be normal for her. There was something about her eyes that suggested vitamin e and selenium deficiency. Other symptoms of that are muscle tremors, muscle wastage, irregular stance, and an abmormal gait...all of which she has!! We ruled out seizures as well. The only thing left is a pretty extreme case of sleep deprivation. A horse can go a couple days without falling into REM sleep, but they must eventually get it. A horse must lay down for REM sleep, because their motor skills (like standing) must all stop. If a horse refuses to lay down for some reason, eventually their body will go into REM while standing, but their motor skills will stop, causing them to collapse. So, we are going with the unofficial diagnosis of sleep deprivation. Heres what we think happened....she scared herself by getting hung up in the panels, so she refuses to lay down in her pen. This has probably been going on for the last three months, its only obvious because it has gotten progressively worse. She was moved to a full barn with a large stall and lots of shavings. She is on bute for pain and we started her on 15mil of Ace, three times a day to try to get her to go down. She was laying down and sleeping out at this barn, so we cut her back to just getting Ace at night, to help her re-develope a sleeping pattern. Worse case scenario, we would have had to completely knock her out and drop her. This would've basically reset her whole sleeping pattern, but it does work. She is now back home, and in a different pen. She had shavings on her back, side and in her mane this morning. All of her wounds have began healing up. The night after we got her back from OSU, with the diagnosis of sleep deprivation, I stayed in her pen and video taped her. The videos are hard to see, but it was SOO obvious watching. Every time she went to rest, her legs would give out on her. Never thought sleep deprivation could cause such a serious problem in a horse. But it's that, along with the Equine Motor Neuron Disease (EMND.) Long winded!!!! Thank you Jesus its nothing too serious!!! and Thank you all for helping!!! I will try to get one of the videos on this thread to show you what I'm talking about.
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post #27 of 66 Old 07-02-2012, 03:49 PM Thread Starter
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BTW....She was not only falling on her hocks, but she began to fall on her pasterns and knees too, right before we took her up north....
Wyoming....she is half arab.
She was adjusted, but there wasn't much to adjust, neither was she very sore over her topline. Her hunters bump, and withers were more prominent due to the muscle wastage that comes along with EMND. She has already started improving, now that were giving her plenty of vit e :)
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post #28 of 66 Old 07-02-2012, 03:51 PM Thread Starter
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Trying to get the videos uploaded and I can't :/
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post #30 of 66 Old 07-02-2012, 04:17 PM Thread Starter
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DimSum...I just read the statistics on the bottom end of that article, and they just about made me sick to my stomach....hoping and praying my mare stays in the "good" 40%!!!!!!!!!!
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