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    07-28-2013, 08:04 PM
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Nail in hoof. It always happens on a Sunday.

It seems like every time one of my horses gets hurt, it's either on a Sunday when the vets office is closed or after-hours.

This morning, before church, my gelding was walking around just fine.

When we got home at 12:30pm, I went out to saddle my mare for a ride and noticed that my gelding was limping. At first, I thought it was on a hind-leg, as the farrier yesterday said he thought my gelding looked a little stiff on one of his hind-legs.

When he wouldn't pick up either of his hind legs for me, I knew it had to be pain in the fronts somewhere. There was no swelling at that point, so it wasn't immediately obvious, but when I picked up his front right and cleaned the mud from his hoof, he had the head of a nail sticking out from just to the side of the middle of his hoof.

I momentarily panicked, thought about pulling the nail out, but remembered several years ago when my mare stepped on a nail, I pulled the nail out and the vet told me that I should have left it until he got there... So I didn't pull the nail out of Dakota's hoof and instead came in and called the emergency vet number.

Since it's Sunday, and they're not open, it was just a phone consultation, but I was told to remove the nail from Dakota's hoof, give him some Bute, and come in and buy a Tetanus shot in the morning to give him.

He's still limping, but not as badly, though the leg is starting to swell up and there's heat in it. I applied medication (an iodine paste) and wrapped his hoof, but I'm a bit worried...

I won't be able to give Dakota the Tetanus shot until tomorrow, probably around noon... How fast can tetanus set into a wound?

Also, when I removed the nail, I had to put his hoof down for a moment in order to uncap the medication. The few minutes his hoof was on the ground, when I picked it back up, it was bleeding. The nail was a little over an inch long, and embedded in his hoof about an inch deep... was the blood a bad sign or just normal? The nail was in his hoof just to the side of the frog of the hoof, in the softer area... and I don't remember my mare's hoof bleeding when she stepped on a nail several years ago.

ETA: I have checked all over where my horses are currently pastured (in the Lot behind the house) for other nails and have found none (I cleaned it up last week), but I plan on doing a full, second sweep tomorrow.
     
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    07-28-2013, 08:11 PM
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I like it when an injury bleeds, like it's washing it.
     
    07-28-2013, 08:24 PM
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Foal
You should be ok until tomorrow. If the nail was not in the hoof too long. And hopefully you got it all out.l
Keep the hoof covered and use either peroxide or betadine soak.
     
    07-28-2013, 08:33 PM
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Trained
No Peroxide!! Iodine is not great either..

I would get the tetanus shot for your horse and then talk to the vet about what to do.
My vet would (likely) get me to soak the foot twice daily in water as hot as the horse can stand it, with lots of Epsom salts for 20-30 minutes, then pack the hole with a mix of Epsom salts and Furacin and wrap and boot the foot, and keep it meticulously clean! No dirt, no dirty bedding! In a big stall with lots of shavings on rubber mats is ideal.
For wrapping, I would highly suggest the Animalintex hoof pads!! They do a great job drawing out abscesses and other ickies. Cover in vet wrap and duct tape with a boot on top, they do a great job.

Good luck!
     
    07-28-2013, 08:45 PM
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I boiled it out with peroxide earlier before I wrapped it.

~*~anebel~*~, why no peroxide or iodine? I've always been told to use iodine and/or peroxide for everything. Always... Iodine based medicated shampoo's, iodine for cuts/scrapes, triodine for rainrot, etc... peroxide to boil injuries out, etc...

I am going first thing in the morning to get a tetanus shot, some more Bute (I have enough to give him some tomorrow morning and that's it), some Penicillin, and another syringe. I just started Dakota on Penicillin (and thank you, TheNinja, for reminding me about penicillin and mentioning giving him some) and plan on asking the vet about giving it to him for the next three days-to-a-week.

I don't have a stall available to use at all, so he's going to have to make due in the Lot, which is large enough for him to run around if he felt well, but small enough to keep him from moving too much too fast.

I will also speak to the vet about soaking the hoof in warm Epsom Salt/water. That seems like a really good idea, I've never been told to do that with a hoof puncture wound, but I have done it with stone bruises before, per the vets orders.
     
    07-28-2013, 09:15 PM
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Peroxide heals from the outside in, it traps in infection. Ask any vet, they will tell you never to use on horses.
     
    07-28-2013, 09:30 PM
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Peroxide heals from the outside in, it traps in infection. Ask any vet, they will tell you never to use on horses.
That's really interesting. I've been told by the vets in the past, several times in fact, to boil my horses injuries out with peroxide... Not arguing with you, just stating what I've been told in the past.

I'll ask the vet about it tomorrow.
     
    07-28-2013, 09:33 PM
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And iodine ******s healing.
Never use either on wounds.

Well if he is in a lot you're going to have to be extra diligent about soaking twice a day and wrapping very well! Also make sure you have a very good hoof boot on that will not fall off. As soon as bacteria enters that cavity, you will have an abscess.
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    07-28-2013, 09:40 PM
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I knew peroxide was bad but I thought Betadine was ok since my Vet always uses it.

What would you suggest instead for cleaning wounds Anebel? Not hoof punctures since my Vet always comes running out for those but the general, every day, no Vet or stitches needed owies.
     
    07-28-2013, 09:43 PM
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And iodine ******s healing.
Never use either on wounds.

Well if he is in a lot you're going to have to be extra diligent about soaking twice a day and wrapping very well! Also make sure you have a very good hoof boot on that will not fall off. As soon as bacteria enters that cavity, you will have an abscess.
Well, I don't own any hoof boots besides my mare's Cavallo Simple Boots, and they are too small for Dakota.

I usually wrap using both Vetwrap and Duct Tape, and he's also wearing a Pad on the bottom of his hoof... so it's medication, pad, vetwrap, then duct tape... (don't knock it, lol, it was all I had at short notice, as I couldn't find my bandages when I was wrapping his hoof)

When I'm at the vets in the morning, I'll talk to them about everything and all the care and treatments I should give him.

I went and checked on him again and he's not moving around too much and is keeping the hoof cocked off the ground most of the time, though he's also fairly willing to stand on it as long as I don't ask him to move. There's still only very slight swelling and only very slight heat in the leg, too.
     

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