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    08-03-2012, 06:27 PM
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Yearling
Nasty sarcoid explosion- how would you protect?! **Treatment Updates**

My mare has had a slow developing sarcoid for months, but it ulcerated and basically exploded overnight. Vet had been planning to treat this winter, to avoid flies on raw skin. Well, wih this development we're basically there now regardless.

This was the size of a pea last night. Today it looks like this.

This is in her "armpit" area and I'm trying to figure out if it's better to bandage (how?!) or just keep it clean and swatted up? She's never been sensitive about touching it but is understandably tender right now. Any help on bandaging ideas?

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    08-03-2012, 08:18 PM
  #2
Yearling
OK, couldn't get the picture off my phone, had to wait until I got home to the computer. It's below.

For months, it just looked like the flat dry-skin patch you see in most of the picture. About a month ago, it sprouted a pea-size nodule in the front. Vet wanted to watch and wait to treat after flies were gone later this fall. Then literally in 24 hours, the pea exploded into this huge, nasty sore. It was dripping blood when I got there tonight and obviously very raw.

Vet coming tomorrow morning to assess our next steps. I still would love any suggestions on how to bandage, if necessary, in this particular location. I think probably we're going to need to move forward with treatment (he's leaning towards the topical Aldara option), but I'm not sure given the flies. Thanks for any thoughts on your experience with this or more general advice on keeping the "armpit" protected and clean.
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    08-03-2012, 08:31 PM
  #3
Green Broke
We had that problem with our old arabian. Since it was his armpit it was impossible to keep it wrapped up. We basically just put SWAT on it alot.

Not alot really worked with him.
     
    08-03-2012, 08:59 PM
  #4
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With that much loose skin, I would probably remove the entire section of skin in an elliptical shape (like a football) and suture the clean edges back together.

We did that many years ago and it never returned. If there is enough skin to do it, it would be my method of choice to get rid of any of them.

If there is not enough skin to just remove the whole thing, then I like to use a liquid Nitrogen application to freeze it and kill the base so that it does not come back.

I have used Blood Root (I believe it is in the active ingredient in X-terra) and Fluoride Tooth Paste and still have not had anything work as good as complete removal or freezing.
     
    08-04-2012, 12:50 AM
  #5
Weanling
That's a pretty small sarcoid as far as sarcoids go ........my gelding had a sarcoid that grew to about 2" in diameter and then one winter just disappeared.

Super Nova.
     
    08-04-2012, 08:11 AM
  #6
Yearling
Super Nova- thanks for putting things in perspective. I've been researching sarcoids for months, and you're right, comparatively this isn't that graphic. Particularly compared to some pictures I've seen of sarcoids around the eye. I guess it was just the sudden change and the raw, bloodiness of it that got me.

Meeting the vet in about an hour. Hopefully he shares your opinion :)
     
    08-04-2012, 10:48 AM
  #7
Weanling
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Originally Posted by egrogan    
Super Nova- thanks for putting things in perspective. I've been researching sarcoids for months, and you're right, comparatively this isn't that graphic. Particularly compared to some pictures I've seen of sarcoids around the eye. I guess it was just the sudden change and the raw, bloodiness of it that got me.

Meeting the vet in about an hour. Hopefully he shares your opinion
:)
Where it is and what type it is will determine what you do about it.

My guy also has a moderate case of PSSM and has some heart issues so we didn't bother to treat as he is just a pasture pet. Treatment is expensive and not always successful. If it had been my daughter's show horse I would have treated as soon as I saw it.

The body is supposed to eventually recognize the foreign body and get rid of it on its on which is what happened to my guy.....but he does now have another one in a completely different location......but my guy's immune system is likely not a hundred percent.

Super Nova
     
    08-04-2012, 11:26 AM
  #8
Showing
I don't think you can protect it down there unfortunately. I agree with Cherie on possible approach. (I did look into sarcoids as well quite a bit, looks like many horses got them :( ). Please, let us know what vet says!
     
    08-04-2012, 11:42 AM
  #9
Weanling
Well I am not sure that I would protect it.....the "angrier" it gets the more likely the body will recognize it as a foreign body and start attacking it.

I would just try to keep the flies out of it.

Super Nova
     
    08-04-2012, 11:45 AM
  #10
Showing
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Originally Posted by Super Nova    
Well I am not sure that I would protect it.....
By "protection" I meant flies, SN. :) Flies seem to LOVE those spots and they get eaten up (and bloody) in no time in my experience.
     

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