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post #31 of 35 Old 12-03-2011, 01:45 PM
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As you well know (), I'm not a farrier, but I always pester the hell out of mine and I've seen more than my fair share of hoof and lameness problems.

Laminitis/founder/sinking coffin bone can certainly cause symptoms like that, but an overaggressive farrier, poor nutrition, or bad genetics can lead to a really thin sole situation, too. Bones, for one, is a bit that way. She's never bled, but the few times we experimented with pulling her front shoes she was so lame I did think she was foundering. Just flat out refused to move. Lots of heat in the hoof, too, though she never abscessed. X-rays confirmed a thin sole and a coffin bone that is way too flat or even slightly negatively angled.

I don't see how navicular disease would be related, but navicular symptoms (sensitivity to hoof testers, caudal heel pain) could, I suppose, actually stem from a thin sole issue.
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post #32 of 35 Old 12-03-2011, 01:56 PM
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Sounds like it could be possible, especially in her case. Too bad we don't have pictures of her feet, it could be interesting to see what shape they're really in.
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So far I'm learning which is a good thing haha the more I learn the better.

Gremmy- Wish I could get pictures but I feel like it would be rude to ask. Also they way they get the horses' feet done is if their feet look like they need to be trimmed then they'll call the farrier out.

(The reason I know most of these details(when farrier is called, when vet is called, and whatnot) is I used to board Phantom there and after I moved him in Oct of 2010 there was a bit of bad blood but I resolved things so we can talk and be happy. So I'm not just pulling assumptions of when the farrier comes out and whatnot out of thin air because I used to deal with it too)
And having personal experience with the farrier I do not trust him. He would trim Phantom's back feet crooked(best way to describe it) and it caused his left foot to turn out and his right foot was just awkwardly shaped. He claimed he couldn't round Phantom's feet out and had to leave them in an asimetrical shape or he"d be lame. After I moved and switched farriers cause I found out he never had proper training my new farrier was able to trim Phantom's feet perfectly and he's never been lame a day.

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post #34 of 35 Old 12-03-2011, 07:54 PM
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Without pictures, we are all just taking a stab in the dark. Horses can NOT bleed around the outer wall. There is no blood supply there. It COULD be bleeding from the white line however which is basically the lamina. this is the line between the wall and the sole. If the horse were over trimmed or really flat, one swipe with a rasp can set it bleeding. Id like to see pictures before I make any more conjecture. This sounds very serious and could certainly be a type of laminitus or lead to serious abscessing that may put the horses life and usefulness at risk.
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post #35 of 35 Old 12-05-2011, 05:55 PM
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What you are describing sounds like the 'rotation' has gotten much worse - especially if she is laying down all the time. 'Rotation' is another way to say founder or laminitis which is, as you correctly describe, a rotation of the coffin bone from it's normal position parallel with the hoof capsule/hoof wall to a spot which is defined by the horse. In severe cases, it is pointing downwards and may penetrate the sole which is where the bleeding comes from. This can be confirmed with xrays. And a horse can have BOTH navicular issues & founder.
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