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post #11 of 27 Old 12-25-2008, 12:00 PM
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it really depends on if it is ND or NS as well... are there changes in the Navivular bone or just heel pain... have xrays been taken ??

it also depends upon so many outside influences...

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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post #12 of 27 Old 12-25-2008, 04:12 PM Thread Starter
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I dont know which one it is . i know hes had navalicur bone broke and the vet said hes navicular and we shoe him regular shoes and hes not horribly lame .. just when hes rode long and on hard trails .. other then that hes pretty good to ride ohh and we give him bute !!!

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how is he without bute??

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post #14 of 27 Old 12-25-2008, 05:33 PM
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When I was in high school (80's) I bought a horse without a vet check (stupid, I know....) and he came up lame after about a month. We did x-rays and he had navicular. We were able to shoe him sound with wide aluminum shoes that our farrier would weld heel bars onto. Now they just make them. He needed occasional bute treatments but I actually used him as my eventing horse and was able to sell him when I went to college and he went on to have a good, sound life. Now they have better medications for horses with navicular. Given that my experience was mostly positive, it was more expensive. I'd get the horse x-rayed and find out what's really going on with him. One thing to remember is that there are many great horses out there going for wonderful prices in the current market, so if you want to spare yourself possible frustration in the future, pass him up......

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post #15 of 27 Old 12-25-2008, 11:59 PM Thread Starter
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hes not bad without bute i have had my dought in the vets findings for that reasoning he just has a very hard time on rough footing and really long rides which i havent ever really done with him personally i would pass him up but hes already part of the family.. not my choice he just needs attention and iom planning on taking him to some shows in the spring..possibly he needs out of the pasture and off the trails in my opinion

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post #16 of 27 Old 12-26-2008, 04:42 AM
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A friend of mine has a horse with Navicular and it was a long drawn out process for her, but everything is wonderful now. Her horse went off a while back (this is years ago) and it was an off an on thing for a couple of years. He was diagnosed with Navicular pretty quickly, but it took a while to get things under control. With special trimings and shoes (no eggbars) he is dead sound and has been for years now. She does low level dressage, trail rides, jumps and even goes cross country schooling with him every now and then.
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post #17 of 27 Old 12-26-2008, 07:22 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you

Thanks 2 bay geldings !! that gives me high hopes that showing him this next sping is going to be possible hes to pretty not to when hes cleaned up anyways now hes just a snowball

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can you post photos of his feet?
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post #19 of 27 Old 12-27-2008, 08:43 PM Thread Starter
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i dont have any right now

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post #20 of 27 Old 12-28-2008, 07:49 PM
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Navicular problems? There is hope!

Many vets diagnose horses with any kind of heel pain as being "navicular". Typically it is navicular syndrome, not actually navicular disease which is when there is actually changes in the navicular bone. Most navicuar pain comes from incapsulated thrush! Yes... THRUSH! It is not just the black stinky stuff on either side of the frog, the entire frog is infected which is eating into the digital cushion and causing pain on the deep digital flexor tendon and navicular bone. It can also be caused by improperly trimmed bars that are jamming up into the navicular bone. By trimming the bars properly, eliminating all sugar from the horse's diet (sugar feeds fungus which is what thrush is), soaking the feet in colloidal silver and getting a proper heel first landing with plenty of frog pressure (the frog should be about 1/8" below the level of the heel), the infection can be killed, and the digital cushion and frog can be rehabilitated which will relieve the heel pain and "navicular syndrome". Find a knowledgeable barefoot specialist who can treat these issues and the horse will be fine in no time. I had a client whose horse was diagnosed with navicular, the vet wanted to put all the typical bars, pads blah blah blah on the horse, these only treat symptoms, not the problem. We used methods from the Swedish Hoof School whom I was trained through and after 3 trims the horse is fine! Navicular is not the end of the world and most of the time is a very treatable problem.
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