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    04-02-2011, 10:30 AM
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Need positive thoughts

My Aunt bought what we had planned on being the final horse. We went out and tried her and we both fell in love. She's extremely well broke and has great manners which is exactly what we were looking for. Because of the purchase price of the horse (not a lot of money at all and he was willing to take the chronic rearer -ad said been there done that, wouldn't hurt a fly- my aunt had traded the bucker -ad said well broke, advanced beginner horse- for) and our not thinking it all the way through (ad said good feet and legs) we went ahead and purchased her and brought her home. Next day she is lame. They guy who sold her to us is saying it's our fault, that she did it in the trailer ride or in the stall . I wisely printed out the ad before he could erase it but when we spoke to him he got very hostile and started cussing and accusing, being an all out jerk. Saying that we rode her hard when we haven't even stuck a saddle on her here. She was off on her front right the day after we brought her home.

The guy said she was current on farrier but her hooves were awful so I had the farrier out, thinking maybe it was the way her hooves were making her stand. There wasn't a lot of heat in her front pastern but it was noticeable enough I told my Aunt to text the guy and let him know she was off. He immediately responded with, well she wasn't lame here. So we debated long and hard with what to do about the situation. We both like the horse. She's a nice mare with a good personality. Well the guy started hollering at us when we told him that we are going to have the vet out to tell us what was wrong. Whether it is something that was caused by the trailer ride or in her stall or something that has been going on long term. He told us to bring the mare back and he would give us a PART of what we paid for her. He didn't want the vet out. I told my Aunt nevermind, let's have the vet come out, it's partly our fault for not getting a prepurchase exam anyway, we'd go from there.

Well my farrier came out the next day (love my farrier) and trimmed her hooves and even took his hoof tester out. She didn't show any pain with the hoof tester. BUT when he put a wedge under her right front (the one she is hurt on) for a few minutes and then made me walk her forward her lameness got worse. In his opinion all signs point to Navicular. (please no) So I called the vet and she is coming out Tuesday.

Mare is now hot in both front hooves and right front pastern, weight bearing on her back legs and when I hand graze her she automatically puts her weight off right front. She is on stall rest and I'm icing her front right 15 minutes everyday and buting her.

We are not sure how the laws are in Ohio but I do have the ad that says : Super broke buckskin mare. Lots of handle, neck reins good, stops, backs and listens well. Soft loper, cute trott. Been used on cattle and trail rides. She is a lot of fun to ride. She is 14.1, really good made, has good feet and legs. Been wormed and current on all shots.

We paid $500 for the mare with the other mare as a trade. He said he sold the other mare for $65 to some lady. Told us that if we wanted to get technical we owed him for repairs to his trailer because the mare we gave him messed up a latch when he loaded her. She loaded perfect for us, we just had to stand there for awhile before she decided it was safe enough to go on.

My Aunt has grown weary of what and who to believe anymore and I feel terrible for her. If it's decided that this mare is far beyond out help (both financially and medically) I'm to the point where I feel obligated to replace her. We are having x-rays done and hoping for the best outcome possible but not getting our hopes too high.
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    04-02-2011, 11:59 AM
Im sorry about the situation. Expensive lesson learned, sadly. A few red flags: he said the mare was UTD on farrier work, but obviously wasn't. No PPE. Guy willing to take a bucker for a supposedly well broke, sound mare? Red flags. Unfortunately, her front legs do not look good in that photo.
Guy sounds like a horse trader, and unfortunately there are a few bad apples out there. I don't know if you have any recourse at all, sadly. Nobody can prove for absolute certain the mare was lame before you bought her. Did you get a bill of sale? If so, I'm willing to bet it says something like "as is" or "no warranties expressed or implied" -so he has the upper hand.
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    04-02-2011, 12:24 PM
I am so sorry that you have to go through this nightmare. Unfortunately I have to agree with JustDressageIt, there really isn't a whole lot you can do. From what I understand from other posts and people, if it turns out that its is something that is long term, and had been a problem for a while, the most you could probably do is take it to small claims court under the whole misrepresentation clause. The only thing I see is that he misrepresented the horse, but I don't think theres much you can do about that. Personally my red flags would go up with him having sold the horse you traded her for to someone for $65. That amount alone is just weird, and the fact that he sold the horse so quickly after you got the mare home. Hopefully its not as bad as you think it may be. She is cute, love her face.
    04-03-2011, 02:48 PM
Green Broke
Thanks you guys. I know it was stupid. I spoke to my lawyer and apparently we should be able to get $565 plus vet costs and court costs if it comes down to it. He represented the mare as having good feet and legs and if the vet says that this is an ongoing problem then he will have to refund us our money in small claims. When I viewed the video he had of the mare online she was not off to me. When I rode her and when I watched her move she was also not lame. I'm hoping it's nothing serious but we will have to wait and see. I did not bute her or soak her this morning and she doesn't look worse. She moves around fine but she's still off.
    04-09-2011, 02:04 AM
Green Broke
Vet did xrays. Mare had Navicular. The guy came and got her today and gave my Aunt her money back.
    04-09-2011, 02:18 AM
So sorry that you had to go through with this. Hopefully the net time you get a horse you will have a PPE done. Glad that it worked out and you got your refund.

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