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post #1 of 12 Old 01-15-2011, 02:17 PM Thread Starter
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need some help - radiography reading

Hello... I had an old thread about a horse with a very swollen hock. Interesting case We considered putting him down yesterday but someone had a change of mind and decided to give him another chance. So today the doctor came to make some x-rays. I received the radiography now but I can't read it, I don't even now if it looks normal or not. I can see that he has a lot of calcified tissue but that's it. As I said in the other thread another doctor told us (without radiography then) that he has his leg this way because of an old fracture that was healing the wrong way without treatment. I can't read the radiography to see if he was right or wrong. The doctor will come to explain us the radiography soon but I just want to find out sooner.

We want to send the radiography to Hungary, a country near us to see if they could do something for him. The costs will be significantly but they took the decision to try it if they say that he has some chances.
I just love this horse but if it was my decision to take I would put him down. But it's not my decision to take so I just tray to find out different opinions.

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The problem:



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Hi, DE - I'm not a qualified person to give any advice but I was interested in these radiographs. I've never seen so much rough, jagged bone in a radiograph before. It should be smooth edged... Look at the radiographs on this web page for an idea of what another hock radiograph shows. Good luck - he's a handsome horse! Tinklington0001 - Other Horse Photos Horse Pictures
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@ Ladytrails : thank you. He is for sure a rare case but unfortunately this thing is not good for him at all. I really hope to find a solution for him but I'm not optimistic at all.

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I can't read it either, but I'm subscribing to your thread. Please let us know what the vet reads on this and Good Luck.
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@ NorthernMama: Thank you. I will let you know when I find something. Btw. I love your avatar.

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Poor poor horse :( Really interesting and fairly horrifying bone growth. Very interested to see what others / the vet have to say. Poor guy :( I'm sure you'll do whatever ends up being best for him.

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We received the answer from the doctor that was supposed to operate Mircea (the horse). And the news isn't good at all. They can't do anything for him.
I will put here the emails.

First answer from the doctor:

"I am sorry about the late answer, but I was out of my emails few days long. It looks an inoperable osteochondroma, but I am sending your pictures to Switzerland to discuss them, because I could see only one patient like this....

Best regards,
Peter Toth

Another mail from us:

"Dear Peter,

Many thanks for your reply. I forgot to tell you, that we are not talking about a sport horse. It is horse that is now in a shelter for horses in Romania and we would like only to offer him a normal life, to sit, eat and walk, nothing to do practically, but some years of silent, comforting life. The people in the shelter who take care of him do not want to put him down to sleep, without trying to save his life.
Many thanks for your response and help. "

The doctor's response:

"Unfortunatelly this problem looks an inoperable osteochondroma, what I wrote you before. I attached an article pair in this field from EVE. If the owner would like to do something, we can perform a CT examination from the affected region and we can do a biopsy and histopathological examination. But this is only diagnostic and not treatment. We can try the surgery as well, but we will put him down during the surgery, 99,9%....
So I think the surgery and the transport are only waste of time and money and only bad for the horse. You should keep him comfortable as you can (phenylbutason etc.), and if it is not possible, the euthanasia is the best for the horse and the owner too.

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DE -- well, you can only do what you can. At least if he is in unmanageable pain, you have the vet's opinion to backup euthanasia.

I looked up osteochondroma and it's basically a benign bone tumor -- can be boney or cartilage, but surgical removal is the only treatment.
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My first thought was a bone cancer or some sort of bone tumor growth. I am not a doctor or a vet, but I am an anatomy geek, and find things like radiographs, CT scans, ultrasounds etc. very interesting. Thank you for sharing the images with us.
Just the way he standing in those photos makes me think he might be in pain. Bless you all for getting a vet involved and trying to do right by him, but I am not shocked that the vet says it's inoperable, and I am not shocked either that he is recommending euthanasia.
I am sorry for the news, he certainly is a gorgeous horse. Good luck in your decisions.

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the first time i saw the x-ray i was thinking bone cancer, but i have only seen x-rays of dogs with bone cancer so i didn't want to say anything since I'm not a vet and be wrong, I'm very sorry for the horse, but i would 100% recommend euthanasia, bone cancer is very painful and that leg could break very very easily. I'm very sorry
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