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    03-25-2012, 09:00 PM
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Foal
Need suggestions about very uptight horse

Nick is a 7 year old TWH gelding. I have owned him for about 2 years. He is out of the Prides Generator blood line so his rather hot tempermant may be in part related to his pedigree. However, there are a couple of strange characteristics about this horse that puzzle me. First of all, he seems to dislike being touched, scratched or petted. He also does not like to be groomed. I have to put him in cross ties in order to keep him controlled enough so that I can thoroughly groom him. I have to put up with him moving the entire time that I groom him along with pawing at the ground and he occasionally tries to bite me. Also, while grooming, he often kicks up at his abdomen. He is also extremely sensitive around his flank area. One other strange thing about my boy is that he urinates more frequently than any other horse that I have seen. He might urinate 4 times within one hour. And these are prolonged urinations, not short dribbles. He does not seem to be in pain when he urinates and he does not drink an excessive amount of water. Someone suggested to me that he may be diabetic (not sure that horses can be diabetic). Others have suggested gastric ulcers or an alfalfa reaction. I took him off all alfalfa for about 30 days and his behavior did not seem to change. So, I am open to any other suggestions that fellow Horse Forum users might have to offer.
     
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    03-25-2012, 09:16 PM
  #2
Trained
Have you had a vet out to test him? Consulted a nutritionist or otherwise? How long has he had these problems? I'd be inclined to call in an 'expert' or 2. Yes, horses can indeed suffer 'insulin resistance' which is very similar to type 2 diabetes.

What is the horse's condition otherwise? What is his diet? How much alfalfa does he get? Nutritional balance? How is he fed(eg. How much, how many meals, etc)? It's possible it's as simple as a nutritional imbalance, such as too much protein, too little Mg, etc.
     
    03-26-2012, 03:20 AM
  #3
Banned
I'd be calling a vet if I were you. The first part of your post just seemed like an energetic horse, but the latter I think you need a vets opinion.
     
    03-26-2012, 05:19 AM
  #4
Foal
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Originally Posted by loosie    
Have you had a vet out to test him? Consulted a nutritionist or otherwise? How long has he had these problems? I'd be inclined to call in an 'expert' or 2. Yes, horses can indeed suffer 'insulin resistance' which is very similar to type 2 diabetes.

What is the horse's condition otherwise? What is his diet? How much alfalfa does he get? Nutritional balance? How is he fed(eg. How much, how many meals, etc)? It's possible it's as simple as a nutritional imbalance, such as too much protein, too little Mg, etc.
I have discussed his issues with my vet, but did have any testing completed. I have not consulted a nutritionist... I am not sure that I can find one nearby. These problems have existed since I bought the horse about two years ago. Nick is otherwise in good physical condition. His spring/summer diet consists of pasture grass and alfalfa hay. Up until about two weeks ago, he was also getting about 16 oz. Of Purina Enrich 32 forage each day. His weight is perfect.

Do you think that all of these symptoms could be tied together? Should I start with a urinalysis to rule out the possible insulin resistance? Thanks loosie!
     
    03-26-2012, 06:25 AM
  #5
Green Broke
Your guy seems to be anything but normal right now ;)

I agree with loosie and alexS... a vet needs to see this horse, and figure what tests he needs. That's just not normal.

If he's in discomfort, it may be related. Sort of like having a headache and people shouting. It may be making him sensitive. However, if this is not the case, I would seek advice from a trainer for some ground manners.
     
    03-26-2012, 06:52 AM
  #6
Yearling
I will ping on the grooming portion makng the assumption it is just that, grooming and not something medically related.

I have a thoroughbred who has a very thin coat. When I got him in January he wasn't sensitive to at least a medium soft brush and I could brush easily with no issues. Now that he has shed out completely he is so sensitive that he can't take anything more than a standard horsehair soft brush and if I use anything else, he does the same thing..he kicks up at his belly and just dances on the cross ties and makes annoyed faces at me. Even the very soft curry I have for him is too much at this point.
     
    03-26-2012, 08:16 AM
  #7
Started
TWH's are noted for insulin resistance problems. Frequent urination is one symptom. It is essentially horse diabetes. Read up on it. I was kinda enthralled by all the info.

I have an old pony that is probably IR, fat on near nothing, a small older app mare who was cresty and a twh that I haven't had long but was emaciated when I got her. I put the two older mares on a very low carb diet and see a big difference. The TWH was kinda problematic because she need a large amount of weight going into a New England winter. But now that she is nearly normal weight I'm opting to feed her like the others with just a scoop of rice bran added to hers. No reason to believe the TWH has any IR problems but I see time and time again on the cushings and IR groups people having problems with that breed. I figured I would err on the side of caution and go low, low carb with all 3. Makes it easier when they are all eating the same thing too.
     

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