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    01-02-2010, 12:42 PM
Green Broke
Oh I feel your pain Kim! Sandie was lame for a couple months due to an abscess and then splints right on the tail of that!! Lots of stall rest and hand walking for her and the vet gave me Surpass (anti inflammatory) to use and wrapped her legs every night, it worked wonders and we're back to jumping again!!

Wishing Nelson a swift recovery!!!
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    01-02-2010, 03:09 PM
Not to go against your vet but, with an injury like that instead of poulticing and using sweat wraps it is much more advisable to be using cold therapy and if needed using a plain standing wrap. Your treatment regiment right now is telling the body two entirely different things and you are actually slowing healing. With the bute AND banamine (both of which essentially have the same purpose, I'm unsure why you need both) you are telling the body to reduce inflammation. With the heat processes topically on the skin you are telling the body to rev up and create more inflammatory response! With any soft tissue injury you want to reduce inflammation as much as possible, this means cold hosing and icing as much as humanly possible, keeping him on a full dose of bute twice a day (2 grams) and then bandaging between icing! On a horse with a very similar injury and the a fore mentioned treatment regime the horse was back to work in four weeks.
Personally, were it me, I would get a second opinion on the injury. Was it ultrasounded? X-rayed? I am very sketchy on the diagnosis and treatment...

Good luck!! It is so tough having an injured horse!! Mine just got caught up in a fence so I feel your pain!!
    01-02-2010, 03:31 PM
Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
Not to go against your vet but, with an injury like that instead of poulticing and using sweat wraps it is much more advisable
poultice is cold.... that's why the one brand is called "like ice"...and it is believe me, that stuff is COLD!

And I didnt see anything about sweat wrapping but maybe I missed that
    01-02-2010, 04:06 PM
Hi Anebel -

My Vet specifically said on the instructions "Cold Poultice" but the barn did a warm. The wrap was on before I got to the barn after I got out of work, and I really do not know much about Poulticing at all - so I just went with what I was told by the barn owner.

The Instructions also said BUTE, and nothing was mentioned of Banamine - but the Barn gave him Banaime.

I thought cold was what it was supposed to be because of the extreme swelling and since that is what my vet specified, but the BO and her Daughter seemed to know how to handle the case.

I think the barn is doing more damage than good as what you are saying.


I just got back from the barn and took the wrap off. I had to use a wet rag to get all that ****ed mud off of his leg. The wrap was on his entire canon bone *between his hock and his ankle*. The swelling is vitrually gone on his leg - except his hock.

His hock, is still 2x larger than it should be. He is standing on his leg, and he is even walking slowly. I waked him a little bit in the isle way to see his movement. The big issue is, I cannot touch his hock what-so-ever. Even the slightest touch, he ends up in extreme pain. I touch the inside of his hock, and he swings his leg up like a dog does when they want to wee on something. I can touch the outside fine, but I cannot the inside.

Even if I wanted xrays or an ultrasound, I do not think there is anyway that the vet will beable to get any devises near his hock long enough for him to withstand.

I am very worried about his hock.
    01-02-2010, 04:45 PM
OK - I have to make some corrections, for I misunderstood what I was told by the barn yesterday.

They put a cold Poultice on him. I thought it was warm, because when I touched his leg with the wrap on, there was heat - but that was my misunderstanding.

So yes, the barn is doing a cold poultice on his leg. They are going to try to get the Poultice on his hock, if he will let them touch it that is.

The Banamine, my Vet freaked out when I told her they gave him Banamine. She said that she specifically said NO Banamine, only a low dose of bute - nothing more, nothing less.

She said cold hosing, but because it is very cold here right now, she advices ice cell wraps, or taking a towel and wetting it down, leaving it outside for a bit and then taking that and wrapping it on his leg/hock area for an hour.

When it warms up some, cold hosing for sure.

So I told the Barn Owner just now on the phone what my Vet said and they will go with it.
    01-02-2010, 04:49 PM
Hope Nelson gets better soon MIE
    01-02-2010, 06:12 PM
Ugh, I feel bad for you. This is why im grateful I can hear myself what the vet says and do it all myself too instead of relying on people who may not know what theyre doing....
    01-02-2010, 07:35 PM
I wouldn't say that the barn I board at doesn't know what they are doing. I misunderstood the Poultice being warm when in reality it was cold.

The Banamine, yeah - but it'll be ok now that I was able to have that cleared up by my Vet.

They are taking great care of him for me, and keeping a close eye on his condition for me and doing more for him, than what I could be doing. It is rough that I am 45 minutes away, and it is hard for me to sit here at home not able to see him and be with him when I want - but I know he is in good hands.
    01-02-2010, 11:50 PM
Green Broke
***sending well wishes and carrots Nelson's way!***
    01-02-2010, 11:56 PM
Thanks HITS.

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