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post #1 of 16 Old 07-10-2008, 12:27 PM Thread Starter
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New Farrier, Confuzing Me???

Well I've had the same farrier for about 3 years with Caliber. So excuse me lol for not be up to date on the new farriers. My old farrier retired due to age and just can't trim any more. I did pick up a new one pretty shortly In time, and his clients seem to like him. Nice, charming, friendly does a good Ok job :). Anyways, I explained to him I do compete In jumping, so I said I wanted him shod on all 4. He looked over his feet and told me It was a waste of money??? I compete a few times a month, and I do Eventing. Since when do you not shoe, I don't understand, why Is he saying this? Does anybody have a jumper that Isn't shod at all. He didn't even suggest only front shoes, he just flat out said his feet are heavy and don't need them. Ok, sorry but In the years I've been with Caliber he's been shod because his feet are NOT. Not only that, Isn't It strange a farrier tells me not to shoe him, In the fact of which loosing a lot of money saying so? I'd be really upset If I don't shoe him, and this week-end his feet start cracking or chipping. Right now we school around 4ft, and he Is worked pretty roughly through-out the week. A good 5 days a week, and when I'm not working him, the stable lounges him 30mins a day for exercise. I'm going to look this up! I'm blown away, I was just looking at him with a stupid nod and like "Alright" lol. Do Thoroughbred have heavy, sound hoof walls? I know for a fact they never keep shoes off a race horse (not that he ever raced), but I know know just a on topic kind of question for concern. If I don't shoe him and keep his boots on, would he be ok? Or should I demand he get his butt out here before Sunday and shoe him all 4?? :/
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post #2 of 16 Old 07-10-2008, 12:38 PM
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if you're jumping that high and eventing, I would worry about grip.

My vote says he needs shoes. The fact that he has good feet is just a bonus.

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Exactly, I just don't understand why he would tell me not to put shoes on?? I'd hate for him to loose balance and we take a dive. Yet he seems so confident, and honestly how would his feet being healthy have anything to do with jumping?? Should I really take advice from somebody you probably has never seen a jump before?
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maybe he doesn't know how to shoe an eventer...

I think you've answered you own question about listening to him, though :)

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How exactly do you know If they can shoe an eventer lol? "Do you know how to shoe a Jumper", . Maybe I'm wrong and soundness of the foot matters, they do land solid front first and then back. So maybe a sturdy hoof Is the most important part of jumping?
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From a "barefooter's" point of view, I'd say it's a real compliment to that a farrier DIDN'T insist on shoes.

I don't really have any hard-core jumpers that I trim, just the 2 ft jumps, etc, but they do fine barefoot if they are adjusted. It's just not the "thing" around here to do jumping so much. It's more of a Western riding area. I do some Polo horses, , dressage, barrel, etc and the high speeds, turns and sudden stops don't pose a problem at all. Keeping them on a regular trim cycle, with a balanced trim, will keep them from ever chipping/cracking on you and for traction, you can't beat a barefoot horse and he'll probably stay sounder for it. The frog will have a chance to absorb some of that impact and is sort of like a little tire tread that offers good grip.

Try keeping him barefoot, you can ALWAYS resort to shoes if his feet start to suffer, right?
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Yeah he gets normal trims every 6 weeks :). The only fear I have Is If he looses traction and falls or slips . As far as I know he's never gone barefoot, and I don't know If that will effect his jumping performance any.
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I think you need to do what you feel is right. If you arent confident in jumping him without shoes he may feel that and wonder what is wrong... You may want to find a farrier that does work with jumpers as well (even though good ones sometimes seem to be impossible to find)


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Brutus, my pony, jumps 2'9" in competitions, about 2 times a month. He schools 3' and 3'3", all this without shoes. He has never had shoes in his entire life. He will be doing eventing soon, and I plan to keep him unshod. If your farrier tell you that you just need front shoes, I'd trust him. You can always put them back on, and if it works just fine then you pay less for shoes.
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Brutus, my pony, jumps 2'9" in competitions, about 2 times a month. He schools 3' and 3'3", all this without shoes. He has never had shoes in his entire life. He will be doing eventing soon, and I plan to keep him unshod. If your farrier tell you that you just need front shoes, I'd trust him. You can always put them back on, and if it works just fine then you pay less for shoes.
He didn't even say anything about front shoes. I haven't jumped that low In like 2 years lol, he Is already doing 3-day eventing and I show jump him 4ft.
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