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    06-09-2012, 09:59 AM
new horse. why would you feed this?

Ok im getting a new gelding on wednesday. I went and tried him out yesterday. I love love love him. He needs more muscle and probably needs worming. I asked the owner what she is feeding him. She said he's on a roundbale 24/7 and she feeds him crepe feed. Isnt crepe for cattle? I've never heard of someone feeding it to their horse. Is that okay? Is it the reason he looks a little underweight? Im not sure on this one.
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    06-09-2012, 10:19 AM
It's not the best thing to feed a horse, and I personally would not feed it. If it hasn't killed him, he must be used to it. However, he's not getting the nutrition he needs from it. Usually people that run their horses with their cows will feed it to all of them or someone that is cheap ;) will do that as well. I would put him on whatever horses in your area eat a little at a time. Treat him like a colt that is being put on feed for the first time and get him used to it.

I would definitely take him off the round bale. The vets in my area jump all over people that have horses on round bales.
    06-09-2012, 10:45 AM
OP: Try to find out his deworming history. If it is lacking, then go slowly. Its tempting to throw a lot of dewormers at them if you know they're wormy, but this can cause problems. The best idea is to take a fecal sample to the vet so they can decide which worms he has and treat appropriately. Since you'll likely be doing a pre-purchase and having them out for a Coggins draw, you can do it then!

Originally Posted by palogal    

I would definitely take him off the round bale. The vets in my area jump all over people that have horses on round bales.
What?? Why? If he's underweight a round bale is probably a good thing for him. My TB gets pretty ribby in the winter and you can throw all the omelene, sweet feed, senior, etc. you want at him but it really just makes him hot, which makes him pace more and sweat more and lose more weight. A round bale is the only way I keep weight on him. A horse can't colic himself on too much hay. The best way to get weight on a horse is more hay and maybe some rice bran which you also cannot colic a horse on. It's the sugars in a lot of the "performance feeds" that get you into trouble.

PS I'm a vet, and a lot of the other vets I know also love round bales for hard keepers.
    06-09-2012, 11:07 AM
I know we have had some issues with vets and roundbales in my area lately too. My understanding is that they have an increased risk for dust and mold, especially if not stored correctly. We have had a lot of horses coming up with allergies and heaves this spring because it has been super dry and the bales are very dusty. I don't think it has anything to do with feeding wise, because I agree access to hay at all times is a great way to put weight on.
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    06-09-2012, 11:20 AM
Ah, thanks Linzee. That makes sense. I still think if you are careful about where you buy your hay from, round bales are great for tough keepers but dust and mold are big concerns indeed. Especially if you have a COPD horse or something.
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    06-09-2012, 11:56 AM
His coggins is utd. The horse is kind of far and im getting him for basically free. But his feet r awesome he's sound. He gaits awesome. He's absolutely adorable. She said he's never colicked since she's had him. He wouldnt be on the roundbale 24/7. He would be on it for about 12 hrs a day because I will switch him and my other gelding on it. I don't want to put them together quite yet lol
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    06-09-2012, 09:01 PM
My vet says round bales are bad because they put a hay belly on the horse and make the back drop, especially the older ones. It's also not all that difficult to keep weight on a horse in the south. We don't have the extreme cold that makes weight maintenance difficult. The dust problem is secondary, as well as the mold. The vets in my area all recommend rationed hay rather than free choice and having switched for the last year or so, I'm inclined to agree, my horses look better this way.
    06-09-2012, 09:36 PM
Palogal, the hay belly is only an issue if you are feeding coarse, poor quality hay. All of my horses are on 24/7 free access to hay and none of them have a hay belly. Some of them are a little bit fat, but that's a whole different thing.

I agree with tealamutt, keep him on hay as much as possible (you'll probably also need to be feeding something in the 12 hours that he's not on round bale). Instead of the creep feed the current owner has him on, I would suggest alfalfa pellets or cubes as a supplement to the grass roundbale. They are a very healthy way to add protein and more nutrients that will help him to gain weight and add muscle.

Oh, and we'll be needing pictures of the new guy when you get him home .
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    06-09-2012, 10:31 PM
Do you know what kind of hay he's on? Fescue is a crappy hay for keeping weight on horses.
    06-09-2012, 10:43 PM
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Although some calf feeds are called "creep" feeds, some people use the term creep feed to describe a method of how an animal is fed and not what an animal is fed.
Used in that manner, it means allowing an animal access to free choice feed (whatever feed) while keeping the other animals away.
It is the setting up of a pen that allows the youngster to have access to the feed, but the adults cannot fit through the access door to the feed. Very common with calves, goat kids, or lambs.
Perhaps that is what the owner meant by creep feeding?

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