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    04-29-2013, 02:57 AM
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Weanling
Nutrition, feeds and adding a flax based product???

Anyone have any nutrition advice, I just want my main boy who's getting older to be in perfect health on the inside and look it on the outside. I bought a bag of the Dumor Ultra Shine just because I wanted my gelding to slick out nice and pick up a little weight. He's on a mix of Safe Choice with a small amount of Omelene 200, free choice hay and 24/7 turnout, and Sho-Glo which is a Manna Pro product, which I love, it's just a vitamin and mineral supplement because the hay around here isn't the best quality and pastures just got replanted so not much grass right now. I added the Omega Horse Shine equivalent, Dumor Ultra Shine not even two weeks ago and I swear I can see a difference in his coat! Oh and by the way, other than miscellaneous sweet feeds, I've only got access to Nutrena or Purina feeds, we've got a Tractor Supply and a few small feed stores that specialize in cheap junk but that's it! I'm trying to become more knowledgeable about his health and nutrition and I'm open to any suggestions.

You can even make up a regimen I should put him on and I'll consider it highly! I don't mind mixing/weighing, adding or subtracting anything.

He's a 15 year old 14.3 hh quarter horse gelding, lesson horse at least 3 days a week, not more than a trot other than the few students who are loping on him. 3 days a week he's in moderate conditioning mode because lesson horse is his side job, he's a barrel horse mostly. I'd say he's in moderate work overall.

I want him to be in perfect health and to shine like he's never shined before!
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    04-29-2013, 03:06 AM
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Weanling
Also, I've had this particular horse for over 8 years, he's wormed every other month with a different ingredient wormer.
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    04-29-2013, 08:05 AM
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I would look at a site like FeedXL.com to make sure he's not getting too much vitamin A. It's really hard to tell, because the ingredients on the Sho Glo just lists a vitamin A supplement. If it's beta carotene, it's probably fine, but it would be good to know.

Why does he get the Omelene with the Safe Choice? Just curious.
     
    04-29-2013, 10:06 AM
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Trained
I can tell you have a TSC lol.
Ultrashine/ Omega Horseshine even more so, do wonders for skin and coat and then some. I saw better results with the Omega Horseshine, tho.
I would seriously think twice about both, Safe Choice and Omolene 200. Both pretty high in sugars, regardless of the name.
Either Strategy Healthy Edge, one of the better Purina feeds( don't know if your TSC carries it, mine does, so yours could order), or Nutrena Life Design senior.
With the minimum recommended amount to feed of thes two plus the Ultrashine, you don't need to add ShoGlo. Overkill. If you stay BELOW the minimum recommended amount of either feed, add 1/2 ration, one measure, of the ShoGlo.

I would do a fecal test before worming next time, and give him dewormer for what he needs, IF he needs any at all. If you keep his environment clean, I.e. Pick poop, you don't need to deworm that much. Latest research shows resistent worms, and scientists have begun rethinking the prophylactic worming.

Sorry for taking the fun out of shopping, but it's really not necessary. K.I.S.S....keep it simple,stupid( not meant personally, lol)
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    04-29-2013, 11:13 AM
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Weanling
They have life design! I usually buy Purina equine senior, because he will barely touch anything that's pelleted! We've just always wormed every other month since it's 16 horses give or take a few!
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    04-29-2013, 11:33 AM
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It says in your post your feeding safe choice and omelene 200. Most horse don't even need grain. My geldings riden 6 days 4 to 5 hours a day trotting and cantering when we get home he's dripping sweat. He gets no grain just hay and a vit/min suppelment hays tested so I know what's missing.

Iam not a fan of purina or nutrena if iam going to use a feed its triple crown. My 26 year old live on hay and vit/min supplement no grain and she's looks great.

Keep it simple lots easier. As for worming do a fecal first worming every other month isn't good. I do fecals spring and fall and worm twice a year. Over worming just isn't good.
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    04-29-2013, 11:34 AM
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Trained
Its been proven that only certain horses in a herd carry lots of worms while the others have nothing. So doing the fecal test and worming only the ones who have worms is more healthy, economical and prevents further resistant worms. No need to pump them full of chemicals just because " we've always done it". Plus knowing what worms are present gives you the chance to target them, not give a product which doesn't do anything.
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    04-30-2013, 02:44 AM
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Weanling
With over a dozen horses sharing pasture, outside horses coming for breeding or a tune up, resell projects an all that I guess it just seemed reasonable to worm them all out on a regular basis rather than having a fecal done on every horse and treating accordingly, I may do this with this one horse but it's honestly not practical (or affordable) with all of the others. The only other horses that get fed are the mares with foals. Triple Crown is not available here, so I'm trying to do the best I can with what I have access to. This was my first very own horse years and years ago so he's extra special to me.
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    04-30-2013, 11:03 AM
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Trained
Of course doing the fecals is best done in a fixed herd, newcomers being wormed and quarantined first. Then it's math. There are also testing kits, but honestly I haven't looked into that yet.
You said you can get Life Design, give it a try. I liked it. The horses who needed it are now on ration balancer only and are doing great. So the LD brought them back well.
     
    04-30-2013, 02:17 PM
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Weanling
I've seen it in there, actually I used to work there but never really paid it any attention, I'll definitely give it a try!
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