Is this an odd growth spurt or a health issue?

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    12-04-2010, 02:08 AM
Is this an odd growth spurt or a health issue?

I know it's almost impossible to tell anything from just a few photos but the lady we're buying the two paints from sent me some recent photos of our new babies.. I noticed a few things about the gelding who's going to be three next April. The filly is going to be two so I know she's still growing quite a bit.... anyways, what I noticed is that the gelding's withers seem awfully pronounced and his back seems almost swayed... and his tail head is kinda sticking up and noticeable. Now these two both have the same sire but different dams. I have studied the photos that she has on her website of the sire and dams and I'm REALLY hoping that he's just at an awkward growth stage and that's why he's so odd looking.

The lady has told me that he's too skinny for her so she's going to be giving him supplements as I asked her about his high withers... what I want to know is does anyone here think I should be concerned about his health? Or is he really just growing still?

I have attached three photos below.. in the first one the gelding is on the left and he's got the longer face. He's also got more black on him than the filly, she's the one with the black tail and he's got a white and black tail. Also, in the last photo he seems to be knock-knee'd... although it could be just the ground he's standing on as in the other photos I have of him his legs seem pretty straight.

What do y'all think? Anything you can notice from these photos? Am I just being too picky? I don't know... I haven't seen these horses in person yet and so I only have photos to go by.. and yes, I know this isn't the best way to buy horses but.. well I have no excuse! LOL.
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    12-04-2010, 05:31 AM
Green Broke
Its hard to tell but they both look good to me. Have you seen them in person?
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    12-04-2010, 01:33 PM
Nope... as I posted in my first post I haven't seen them yet. I know that's not a great way to buy horses but I do really trust this lady. We have been talking for the past two months and she seems really down to earth and she doesn't seem like she'd falsify information soo.. I dunno, though, he just doesn't look "right" to me.. maybe I'm just being too cautious.
    12-04-2010, 01:39 PM
Green Broke
Is there any kind of way to return the horse if it doesn't check out right?
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    12-04-2010, 01:41 PM
Actually the lady I'm buying them from is delivering them to us when we're ready so I guess if I don't like them or there's something wrong then I guess I'll just have to tell her when she's there! :-D
    12-04-2010, 02:57 PM
At 2 and 3 thier conformation isn't going to change a bunch. They both have kind of ewe necks and weak looking toplines. I don't see anything unhealthy about them but they are not high quality horses. They will probably work well for what you are doing with them and I wish you luck.
    12-04-2010, 05:39 PM
This is the sire of them both - IMATUFFSONNY:

This is the gelding's dam: Wahoos Freckles

And this is the filly's dam: Apache Black Bird

The lady that own's these horses shows them in halter and you can see that they are all quite nice looking. I'm hoping that the two we're buying take after their parents once filled out. I think they just need some muscling up and probably just aren't getting enough protein/work to develop the stocky build of their parents.
    12-04-2010, 05:47 PM
What I see are a couple of young horses who have decent weight but have zero muscle definition. I am not sure what they are being fed, but when you get them home, more protein couldn't hurt. It appears to me that they both got the withers and the neck from their sire. It will get better as they bulk up and finish filling out but I doubt they will ever really be stunning horses. It is very unique though how similar their facial markings are.
    12-05-2010, 01:31 AM
There are videos of them taken this year on the webpage of the lady we bought them from if y'all would like to look.. might give a better impression of their conformation..

Panther (the gelding)

Diamong (the filly)

Please look at these and let me know what y'all think.. just remember I didn't take these vids! ;)
    12-05-2010, 12:48 PM
Green Broke
What are your plans for them? While they may not be halter horses, they both look like pretty decent horses. I think their top lines look thin, so some more weight and muscle should help them a lot.

It all depends on what you require of them. If you say "I'm going to show them" vs. "they are going to be trail riding horses," will depend on how suited they are for you. I personally would adore either one of them! But I am just a trail rider. But I don't see anything really wonky on either of them. I think the withers may look funny on the gelding because of where the white of his mane meets the black on his back. So it makes the withers more pronounced looking. But withers are actually a pretty good quality for holding a saddle. And I really think they will look MUCH better with some weight on them. All the photos of their parents show horses at a better weight. So they might look like their parents with some feed and exercise. But I don't see any horrible faults with them being sound and healthy. Sure, a more muscular neck would be nice, but you don't ride the neck. So it goes back to, what are you planning to do with them? They really are sharp looking, especially together!

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