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post #1 of 37 Old 05-11-2010, 01:13 AM Thread Starter
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Odd swelling...Please help!

My gelding developed an odd swollen large lump right at the top of his scapula. This happened overnight after a non-riding day. This is not a bug bite and is not a saddle issue.
The swelling is not showing signs of heat and is not changing in size. It is very firm... seems more like a deep tissue swelling.
I have done bute and box rest and cold therapy for a week with no result. He is completely sound, however, he is bothered when I press on the swollen area.
I am getting ready to contact a vet, however was wondering if
anyone has experienced this with their horse??
Pictures are below, 3 of the swollen side and 1 picture of his regular non- swollen side. The swelling is to the right of myhand.
Any advice is greatly appreciated!!! :)





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post #2 of 37 Old 05-11-2010, 02:49 AM
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I would call the vet ASAP. I had a rescue horse come in with a similar swelling and it was the fact he broke the tip of his scapula and it was slightly displaced.

Has he had any vaccines or shots there in the last few weeks?
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I'd certainly have the vet look asap. However if there is no lameness I would doubt there was a fracture. Have you trotted him up on a hard, level surface? If he's sound trotting up, lunge him on a hard surface on a small circle, known as 'the circle of death' to some haha, it puts a lot of pressure on the joints and will, in the majority of cases, show up any lameness. If he's not lame trotting on a small circle on hard ground, I would put my money on it that there is no fracture present.
Looks more to me like a haematoma IMO. Often if they get a knock/bite/kick or some kind of impact, even if he knocked against a fence or tree, or rolled on a rock, they can develop into a haematoma. A haemotoma is just a collection of blood which shows the same symptoms as a fracture, and is basically one of the ways the body can slow internal bleeding. Much like a bruise but it comes up as a lump so can be sensitive to the touch. They don't cause any problems and usually dissolve back into the body after some time, although some may continue to grow and will need to be drained. Either way, not a real big deal ;)


I'd get the vet to check it out anyway, just in case.

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I agree that it is time to get a vet out. I am thinking abscess or hematoma as well. I would hold off on further doses of bute, because if it is an abscess this will keep it from breaking out. Strangles abscesses are usually in the jaw/throat area but they can actually be anywhere on the body (not that I'm saying that's what it is, but it is on the list until proven otherwise.
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Do definitely rule out anything more serious first, but have you put any fly spray on him recently, or changed brands of anything that would have gone on his shoulder? Two summers ago I tried a new brand of fly spray, and my guys got giant welts just like that, but near their flanks, about at the bottom edge of the ribcage. I thought hematoma (I'd actually fallen off the afternoon I found them, and thought that the stirrup irons had swung back and clunked him...), bug bites, poison ivy, everything I could think of, but it finally turned out to be the new fly spray. Just a thought, hope that you figure out what's going on with him.

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I would call the vet ASAP. I had a rescue horse come in with a similar swelling and it was the fact he broke the tip of his scapula and it was slightly displaced.

Has he had any vaccines or shots there in the last few weeks?
No vaccines and no new medicatinos/flys sprays, etc.
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Yes, Thank you!!! I have heard that its most likely a hematoma as well, specifically from a friend that runs a large boarding stable and comes across a lot of bumps, lumps and the like.

I'm going to take him to the vet next Mon if it is not dissolved on its own by then. I appreciate your thoughtful replies! :)
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If your waiting till Monday I would continue with the cold water and let him move around. Another thing I would suggest is Arnica gel..
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My Doc O'lena reining stallion use to get knots like that on his neck right behind his pole. Was a muscle issue and I would get my Chiro/bioscan person out to work on him and by the next day or so it would be gone. Then over time depending on work load and what he was doing it would come back. He was never lame or really seemed sore with it. Never hot or anything. Just a big knot in his muscle.

Not saying that is what it is but I personally if he was mine I would get Jackie out and then if that did not work I would call the vet or take him to MSU for x rays. My vet could not x-ray that area.

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My Doc O'lena reining stallion use to get knots like that on his neck right behind his pole. Was a muscle issue and I would get my Chiro/bioscan person out to work on him and by the next day or so it would be gone. Then over time depending on work load and what he was doing it would come back. He was never lame or really seemed sore with it. Never hot or anything. Just a big knot in his muscle.

Not saying that is what it is but I personally if he was mine I would get Jackie out and then if that did not work I would call the vet or take him to MSU for x rays. My vet could not x-ray that area.

Thanks for the info, but who is Jackie?? We live in Las Vegas so MSU would be a long haul ;)
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