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post #1 of 18 Old 02-26-2012, 10:05 PM Thread Starter
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Older mare with runny stools.

So-not my horse-BO asked me to post this thinking maybe some of you would have some ideas......

THere is a 27 yr old boarder at our barn. Sweet, very arthritic 27 yo QHx mare. SHe currently gets a scoop of Senior feed 2x/day and the only supplement she gets is Cortaflex, and an occasional Bute if she is particularly stiff that day. SHe gets basically all the hay she can eat. Blanketed, out 12hr/day, in the other 12 in a stall.

Anyway-week before last she started with loose stools. Not diarrhea, per se, but like a cow pie. WE have no real grass-it is winter and frozen, so not like she is getting lots of wet grass. She DOES founder on grass, and once it starts coming in, she gets a muzzle when out and has been fine for years. Teeth were done last spring, so could be possible, I guess, wormed in November with a power pack, I believe, and the rest of the year she(and everyone else) gets fecals eery 3 months. Only things different around that time are that we opened a new bottle of Cortaflex, and her owners other horse, just a little older than she, was put down for Cushings, and old age. SHe knew him, we are sure, but was not out with him regularly, nor is her stall next to where he was. THey were horses of the same family at the same barn for YEARS. (like over 15....)

We are really not sure how to proceed. BO was away last week, so we were in a bit o a holding pattern. Owners are aware, so it is really their call. Our (BO and myself) feeling is that we do a fecal and call the vet if that is negative.
Any other ideas? I really don't think the owners will do much. THey probably will get the vet if told to do so.

WE are not seeing huge weight loss (yet) or dehydration, but obviously we want to avoid that!
THoughts? Any ideas? THanks!

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my daughters 35 year old mare does this from time to time ... vet can never find anything wrong. The last time she suggested mixing some yougrt in her feed when she got the runs. It worked wonders...i just get the plain yougurt and scoop out a few heaping spoon fulls in her feed and mix it up. Settles her stomach down in a few days.
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that is a good idea about yogurt also check her teeth that could cause loose stools

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Thanks! We will try the yogurt. Easy fix. I think we are also going to take her off the Cortaflex for the time being. Doesn't do much for her but make the owner feel better.

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Leapoffaith-Why yogurt instead of Probiotics? Just easier to get? Yogurt actually seems pretty messy......just curious. THanks again.

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I am interested in this tread,

I also have a horse that has "cow patties" instead of normal horse apples! She is in a pasture with 2 other horses that have normal poops. The only time I really notice (becaue they are in a big pasture) her loose stool is when she is in her stall just for feeding and when we ride her. She is a 3 (almost 4) year old Spotted Saddle Horse who poops at least 8-10 times on a 5 hour trail ride. Sometimes when she goes it is really a cow pile and sometimes it is very runny. We have purchased some probotics and I have started putting it in her feed.
I am wondering how long before I can tell if it will help her problem?


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Rhonda-have all other factors been checked? It may be very very different causes in a young horse than an older one. If this has been going on long term (ours has only been 2 weeks, really) you may want to check with your vet.

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Leapoffaith-Why yogurt instead of Probiotics? Just easier to get? Yogurt actually seems pretty messy......just curious. THanks again.
We tried that and with this old gal it just did not help. Yep its messy but it is cheep and quick solution to the problem and the mare loves it.... heck from time to time you can just go out there with the tub of yogurt and a spoon and she will eat it right off the spoon!!!
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I'm trying to think of what it is in English, and I will come back to you.. someone on our yard had a pony with old worm damage, and as it got older, patties- fed bierhefe, but can't remember what it is argh, worked a treat!

Got it!

Yeast.. but like yeast you get in beer, hence the bier ;D I will try and find out more details for you this evening- all I know is it cleared it up.

Could she be stressed at all?

Also, if she's out 12h and prone to founder, I read somewhere that winter grass, especially if frosted can be sweet too, and cause founder..? I might be talking rubbish, but I'll see if I can find where I read it!

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I'm trying to think of what it is in English, and I will come back to you.. someone on our yard had a pony with old worm damage, and as it got older, patties- fed bierhefe, but can't remember what it is argh, worked a treat!

Got it!

Yeast.. but like yeast you get in beer, hence the bier ;D I will try and find out more details for you this evening- all I know is it cleared it up.

Could she be stressed at all?

Also, if she's out 12h and prone to founder, I read somewhere that winter grass, especially if frosted can be sweet too, and cause founder..? I might be talking rubbish, but I'll see if I can find where I read it!
Hmm Yeast. Another easy answer. I think we will try the yogurt first, then add yeast if that doesn't help.

I would think that she may be stressed by the loss of the families' other horse who was her riding companion for a number of years, but perhaps I am reading too much into it.

WHere she is turned out it pretty close to being a dry lot......so I doubt that it is the grass, but will bring that up. SHe is out with a mini who has the same kind of issue with grass-both are muzzled wonders at the first hint of green.

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