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  • Horse "over at the knee" wobbly
  • Have been on aricept for two years is it possible to have shaky and wobly legs

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    09-08-2010, 08:45 AM
Green Broke
This One Has Me Stumped

I'm putting this in health as I am a little concerned that this could be a muscle issue.

My fiance's horse Trojan has an interesting little quirk. He is an 8 year old Standardbred gelding.

All of my horses are fed from feed buckets on the ground. Trojan seems to have balancing issues with eating from his bucket. The muscles in his front legs all quiver & sometimes it appears that they give out from under him. I noticed it, first, last summer while feeding, but it was basically just the occasional quiver. It appears to have become much worse since then.

He grazes without a problem. It really only happens when he is eating from his feed bucket.

I took a couple of videos this evening to post to see whether anybody here might have some idea as to what is causing this. If there is any other information that I have left out, please ask, as I really am starting to worry.

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    09-08-2010, 09:09 AM
I'm not an expert on this but a lady at my shows has a horse that does this. Her legs are all wobbly when she eats hay and feed(she feeds on the ground also) from what her vet said its called being over at the knee but it's also been called goat knee. Like I said I'm not an expert and maybe someone else with more experience can help you out a bit advice if you feel like he's okay wait till the vet comes out next and ask him, but if (you said you think sometimes his legs might come out from under him)you feel it could harm him call the vet out as soon as you can. Could he also possibly have weaker muscles in his front legs?
    09-08-2010, 09:14 AM
Green Broke
Hmmm, I'm going to have a hunt & see if I have a decent conformation photo of him so you can see the way he is built to see if that may have some influence. I have heard about "over at the knee" but haven't noticed it in him before, but will check properly.

I have wondered whether maybe the muscles in his front legs were weaker, but then thought wouldn't he do it even when grazing then? I have also wondered if maybe he has only ever been fed from a fence feeder or something.
    09-08-2010, 09:24 AM
I would say you need to call the vet and have it checked out. Playing the guessing game gets frustrating, and a vet can clear it up on the spot. I agree with what you said about maybe he has been fed from a fence feeder or something else a little higher but if he can graze without being shaky that doesn't make sense. It could also be a nervous vice, a habit this horse has developed, he looks like he is always ready to flee in the video. It could be the head so far down in the bucket makes his eyesight less than great and he can't relax to eat for fear something is coming to scare him out of his feed or attack him. I would just call the vet and make sure it isn't anything muscular or neurological at play. It could be just a nervous tick or vice.
    09-08-2010, 09:26 AM
Green Broke
Most, not all, but most Stbd's that are racing don't get much pasture time because of the risk of injury. So if Trojan has been previously raced, it is possible that he has only been fed from a bucket (grain) and possibly a haynet or manger. (we fed hay on the stall floor, but not everyone does....) I have never seen this in a Stbd at all!
    09-08-2010, 09:30 AM
Green Broke
I did wonder about a nervous thing too, as he is a very, very flighty horse. My fiance even said today that he looked like he was preparing to do the bolt.

Trojan only ever did track prep before being turned out in a 200 acre pasture for 5 years with very little contact with people (hence the flighty I guess!)

I really am considering having him checked out by the vet just to set my mind at ease, as it concerns me that it may be a muscle issue, or even a balance problem brought on by something neurological.
    09-08-2010, 09:32 AM
If he only does it while eating grain and not while grazing, it seems like it wouldn't be a muscular thing. He must spend a lot more time with his head down eating grass than he does eating grain. Have you tried feeding him higher up? Does he do it then?
I think I would agree with herdbound that it might be a nervous tick. My first impression while watching was that he was just overly excited about eating.
I'd love to hear what you find out about it.
    09-08-2010, 09:35 AM
Green Broke
I just bought a fence feeder today so may try giving him his next feed in that and see what he does.

I am hoping that is just a quirk and not something more serious!
    09-08-2010, 09:44 AM
More than nervous I would guess excitement. Anticipation of eating and the excitement of eating.
    09-08-2010, 09:46 AM
Green Broke
Is it possible that would happen because he spent so long in the paddock with no contact, so wasn't particularly well fed?

Sorry for all the questions, I have just never seen anything like it!

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