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    11-21-2010, 11:50 AM
  #1
Foal
Opinions on what is wrong with my mare

Hi, I'm new here. Thought I'd try and see if I can get any ideas from here.
I'll try to bullet point it to make it easier to read.
  • ]I own an 8 year old Welsh cob mare.
  • She spent the summer competing in all RC activities, jumping brilliantly, showing etc etc
  • Owned her for 2 years, used for just hacking prior to me and I have full history, every vet invoice, saddle receipt etc and still in contact with her breeder.
  • She is very forward going, excitable and strong, typical welsh- very spirited.
  • Mid October time she suddenly went very lethargic, to ride and on the ground, we kept her in for a night and she was no longer lethargic on the ground but not right ridden.
I fed her pink powder to boost her vit/mins as she is a very good doer and was out with a muzzle on and in with limited hay and she never has hard feed as she's too fizzy and a good doer.
Riding wise she will pin her ears back when asked to move forward, does not want to go into canter.
I immediately called the physio who came to treat her. They said she had a pulled Psoas muscle and a tight poll, both of which she treated and said she should be fine in a few days.

She was a bit better after this and did everything asked of her in the school however she was NOT her fizzy, forward going self at all.

Then 2 weeks ago she went back to her ears pinned back, not wanting to move, acting in pain again. I tried her on the lunge with no saddle or bridle and she did not want to move AT ALL. This horse is normally a dream to lunge, I don't use a whip, she just goes round and round as she is so energetic!

So I called the vet this time, who came out early last week.
They trotted and walked her up-sound.
Walked, trotted, cantered on the lunge in the arena, where she showed the vet just what I meant by refusing to move, ears pinned back, lunging at us for making her move, however when she did move she was sound.
We then did flexion tests on both her hind legs- sound.
Tried to lunge her in trot on a circle on concrete- apparently she seemed slightly short striding out on her right foreleg.
Vet checked for pulses and heat in leg- nothing.

Vet said to give her 2 butes a day and see if it makes a difference to her way of going and ride her after 4 days of being on bute.
My sharer 'forgot' to give her the bute the morning of the 4th day but tried riding her, she wasn't her normal self still. Acted lazy yet she still moved, looked awful cantering on the left rein and when asked to do so pinned her ears back and did some 'leave me alone' type bucks.
I rode her today, having been on the bute last night and this morning, and she went round lovely, couldn't stop and was cantering off with me- back to normal!
However, on her bad rein (left) she wasn't normal in canter. I can't pinpoint what it is but she wasn't 'right' but no ears back or bucks.

She had the farrier yesterday, she is barefoot and needed a trim. She hadn't been buted yesterday and he put the hoof testers on both her forefeet and no reaction at all, he also felt for pulses and nothing. He looked at her feet closely and couldn't see anything to be concerned about.

I'm still on this 'bute trial' from the vet and need to call them a few days after its over to let them know the outcome.
If she goes bad again after the bute, which in theory she should, then I am planning to get her up to the clinic for nerve blocks and xrays.

Would like to know if anyone has any ideas?

Teeth were done by the vet in January.
     
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    11-21-2010, 11:58 AM
  #2
Yearling
Is it your riding position throwing her off? Just a thought...
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    11-21-2010, 12:01 PM
  #3
Foal
It's not just me who rides her as I have a sharer for her 3 days a week also she does it on the lunge.
Food for thought though, thanks :)
     
    11-21-2010, 12:25 PM
  #4
Super Moderator
It sounds like something hurts. I would geuss back or shoulder but I'm really not sure. It's really hard to tell when it's not an obvious injury or illness. There are so many things it could be, even an ulcer could be a likely issue. Since she doesn't want to move forward I would think there is a pain of some sort. You are sharing her, does she use more than one saddle? Maybe someone has a saddle that doesn't fit right. Doesn't sound like her feet to me. The fact that she went lathargic for a day could be unrelated but that makes me wonder if the issue is not "inside" such as the ulcer. I just really don't know..... sorry.... :{
     
    11-21-2010, 01:41 PM
  #5
Foal
Sharing wise- no she just comes down 3 days a week, does all the yard jobs and uses her tack in the tackroom. Just got the one saddle for her.
Such a pain when you don't know where to look!
She is definitely in pain though, she's such a sweet, interactive mare and she is trying her best to tell me something is wrong- I just can't work out what it is!
Shoulder has also popped into my head, not too sure how this would be diagnosed though as she has been poked and prodded by a physio and a vet now :S
Just wish I knew :(
     
    11-21-2010, 01:52 PM
  #6
Green Broke
It could very well have to do with an internal problem. Perhaps an ulcer of somesort. Bloodtests should be done as well as she may have injested something that is harming her system & making her lethargic & in pain.
If in doubt, you can always consult the internet/google to find problems with your related symptoms & suggest these to you vet.
     
    11-21-2010, 01:58 PM
  #7
Yearling
Watch the sharer ride her, maybe she's not as caring/skilled as you are and is unknowingly doing something to make or renew the pony's pain. Also, JMHO, in those giant muscles I think it may take a long while to get them healed up. Just think of when you pull a muscle in your back - a couple of days after treatment it quits hurting like mad, but it still hurts for days, especially if it's worked. The fact that she's better on Bute and not good when the Bute level drops says that she is hurting. If she's not on pasture turnout the majority of the time, she probably doesn't get a chance to stretch her neck, run, buck, shake, circle, etc. which is mother nature's way to help them loosen those muscles and work the kinks out of the musculoskeletal system.
     
    11-21-2010, 02:17 PM
  #8
Foal
I watched her ride yesterday, she doesn't do anything for me to be concerned about. The only thing I've ever niggled at her about is she can be a little hand strong but she is aware I do not want her to do this and she was fine yesterday.

She goes out in the turnout most days and has a good run around, they just changed from 24/7 to daytime turnout and I been chopping and changing to what is best for her. At the beginning we box rested her for 6 days or so then I left her out for a week until they changed over to daytime.

Yes, the bute has done its job in proving that there IS something that needs attention and, in the words of my vet, not 'in her head'.

She's more 'odd' on her bad rein and whilst watching my sharer, she did not want to go straight and was cantering with her bum coming in and front end on the fence side.

The physio said to ring her if it didn't work as planned but I rung the vet as I wanted all bases covered instead of focussing on just one aspect (muscular) of her. With the vet, petplan can start paying if we go down nerve blocks/xrays.

Thank you for the replies. I'll add some pictures of her before all this begun so you can see her...


     
    11-21-2010, 03:31 PM
  #9
Super Moderator
I confess I didn't read every word in the posts to this thread, but it sounds more like an internal matter to me. She was unhappy even unmounted.
Are you monitering how much she drinks and pees? Could it be some sort of bladder issue? Has the vet done a white blood cell count (checking for infection)?
     
    11-21-2010, 03:46 PM
  #10
Green Broke
Agree with the bladder or something like that. Doe she seem to need to pee after riding a bit?
She is squeezibly cute
     

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