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    04-09-2008, 10:01 PM
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Osteoarthritis and sesamoiditis

There's long, 6 month tale that goes along with this, but in a nutshell, today the x-rays show that my 10yr old OTStd has osteoarthritis complete with diminished cartilidge in his fetlock joint and sesamoiditis to the point where the sesamoid bone is rough. He is definitely in a degenerative state and the vet feels that any care is really just palliative.

The last two times he was ridden, he came back lame; the last time, quite bad. Currently, he is on bute, but I'm wondering what his future is. I'm certain he should never be ridden, but how much time, effort, money and heart can or should be put into his care to keep him pasture sound? You need to know that our pasture is quite rough, especially this spring. Currently, I am looking for a home for him that would have a golf-course paddock for him as to be loved lawn ornament only. I don't have any problem keeping him here, but I don't think that our terrain is suitable for him. I keep thinking of him slipping on ice, mis-stepping over a rock, mis-judging one of the hills and valleys in our pasture... awful...

Any thoughts?
     
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    04-10-2008, 10:22 AM
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My fiance's 8 year old gelding has osteoarthritis in his right knee and both hocks. I forget all the terminology, but in all of this joints, it was just bone on bone with no fluid. The vet gave us bute to give him the day before, day of , and day after we ride or work him hard. The swelling has gone down in his knee (it was quite swollen before) and we also got him a joint supplement to get more lubrication in his joints.

That really seems to be helping a lot for him. The terrain where he is kept is far from being anything like a golf course. It's hilly, rocky, muddy, and his paddock is on the smaller side so he can't run or anything, but we try and get up there as much as possible to hand walk him. I've only seem progress in his joints, and I know he's feeling much better (last week, I let him loose in an arena, and he cantered and bucked and was just very happy)

He was never lame, just very stiff and didn't want to do more than 5 min of walking or else he'd be in pain.

Do you have your horse on any joint supplement?
I'd be careful with the bute because long term it can cause ulcers and I believe affect the liver.
If you don't have him on a joint supplement, I highly recommend it and see if there's any improvement after a few weeks. And maybe be out there in the pasture with him so you can see if he does indeed trip a lot, and you can assess how well he does on the terrain.
     
    04-10-2008, 12:24 PM
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We just, just found out about this so he is on bute just for a week or two at the most to get the worst of the swelling down and the pain under control. I would not keep him on bute either. If I can't help him without bute, I will put him down. How much does it cost to have a horse on supplements for this kind of thing? I guess it's glucosamine, right? Can I get it from the feed store or do I need to go through the vet?

And what about the winter? Will I end up with a really bad scenario in the winter? There is no dead stock removal in our area, so this is concern as well. Winter-time deaths are a logistical nightmare here.
     
    04-10-2008, 12:58 PM
  #4
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We got Gem a simple joint supplement, with glusosimine and conjointin (i think) and we got it at the local tack shop for around $30. There are other supplements with more stuff in it, but the price shot up to around $100.

He was fine in the winter time, a little more stiff, but he did well (we only found out about his osteoarthritis in March, but he's had it for a while according to the vet)
     
    04-11-2008, 05:45 PM
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Yes, the vet said glucosamine and chrondroitin are popular choices, but there actually are no *scientific* studies that say they help. However, I know that glucosamine alone has helped our dog.

What about gelatin? Anybody ever try that?

I don't feel there is a long term hope for our gelding unless I can rebuild his cartilage. The swelling has gone down with bute, but tomorrow his bute dosage will be cut in half. I expect that the next few days will tell me a lot.
     
    04-11-2008, 05:53 PM
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Are there any other options you could talk over with your vet?

I know my vet was saying there are injections that people use on performance horses that really help, but they are on the expensive side.
     
    04-11-2008, 09:45 PM
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Just wondering of you have contacted any one at gaulph yet? Some one at the equine dept might be able to shine more of a light on things? I find that they have the best equine research dept in canada, saddley enough I know how it is to depose of a horse inthe dead of winter in canada.
I read some where (can't remember) that sea kelp is good also.
     
    04-12-2008, 11:41 AM
  #8
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Sea kelp, huh? I dunno if I can even get that here. With all the horses in my area, you'd think there would be more stuff, but there really isn't alot. Guelph is a long way away, but I have spent hours on the 'net looking at different medical and vet sites. So far, I haven't found anything hopeful.

The vet has told me that yes, there are some options, but it's all just postponing the inevitable and the sesamoiditis can't be reversed so will likely just cause more and more problems. Other people I have talked to about this have said a few months may be all that is workable for him even with a lot of support. Frankly, I'm not in a position to spend lots of $$$ on a rescue that I'm now finding out, in all likelihood, had this condition over a year ago, unbeknownst to all.

Today the swelling is gone, so I'll see how he does over the next while. Looking back, I'm remembering though how little he ran and played in the field... hmmm... I am going to put him on a joint supplement and see how that does. Any idea how long to see improvement if there will be any?

I also will ask the vet to send me the xrays on Monday so I can see for myself (assuming I can read the xrays well enough) and compare them to a "normal" joint xray.
     
    04-12-2008, 12:46 PM
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I feed the joint supplement to Gem once a day. I believe in about a couple weeks time I let him loose in the arena, where he proceeded to fart buck and canter. Something he never did when he was previously turned out.

The guy at the tack store where my fiance and I got the supplement, said it would take about 4 weeks to see a marked improvement, but I believe it varies on the horse.
     
    04-14-2008, 12:54 PM
  #10
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Thanks. I will pick something up and see if I can help him for a couple of month anyway.
     

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