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post #21 of 30 Old 06-27-2011, 07:36 PM Thread Starter
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a lot of great sugestions i'm already implementing them!

OK I started with the Probiotics last night, is that a daily thing?
Went to the feed stores and I guess I'm going to have to try some of the bigger feed stores in one of the larger cities or have the feed shippen in to me.
Not one of the 3 feed stores in my little town caries anything except Purina and no one carries the Ultima (or would order it for me).

I'm going to try the smart packs ordering online and I've tracked down a source of Alfalfa hay that's 12.00 a bale, one question is the alfalfa pellets and the hay interchangeable? I mean the smaller pellets that are larger then feed pellets but way smaller then the cubes? Does that count as "roughage or concentrate"?

I've switched her to 3x a day feedings instead of 2 x daily so that should help... geez it feels like I'm out there feeding her every few hours LOL.

Finally the beet pulp: what is that about? Is that an additive or something that should already be in a good feed?

Been giving her olive oil but I think I'll switch to rice bran oil."

Thanks to everyone who gave great tips I really appreciate it. I've never had a skinny horse before and I HATE it. I feel like everyone who drives by my house it thinking "man why are those people starving their horses?"
I take a lot of pride in my babies and want them to look good and be healthy.
Thanks again,
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post #22 of 30 Old 06-27-2011, 07:46 PM
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I wouldnt waste your time with the beet pulp personally when you look at the costs now. Its doubled in costs since I started using it and it just isnt worth 14 bucks or so a bag when your alfalfa hay is cheaper. Alfalfa in any form is more bang for your buck.

You can interchange any alfalfa product so long as you are feeding hay also. Its all fiber but the pellets and hay are long stem fiber.

You can give your feed more fat simply by adding Cool Calores. It can be ordered offline or in a smart pack really reasonably. Its 99% vegetable fat pretty much. Smart pack also does daily probiotic too really cheaply per month. Id give it daily for awhile.
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re cool calories

is the cool calories better or cheaper then just directly adding veggie oils into the feed. I've been using olive oil 1/4 cup pr feeding X 3 times daily now and that's pretty expensive. I just ordered the cool calories from smart pack with the digest ultra. There were LOADS of OTTB ppl on there saying that stuff is great :)
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I used cool calories for my old gelding a few years ago and after going though a whole bucket I saw no results, I also learned that it's hydrogenated fat so it's not a "healthy" fat. It's artificial (and proven harmful for humans!). I switched him to hard keeper solution, which he will eat the powder right out of my hand, and has in the past, and currently helped him gain a lot of weight. It also contains pre and probiotics already in it.
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do you remember the brand you used?

Hey Rachel,
Do you remember the brand of hard keeper solution?
Like where was it from?
Thanks,
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Hey Rachel,
Do you remember the brand of hard keeper solution?
Like where was it from?
Thanks,
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The brand is vita flex, here is the link to it on smartpak Hard Keeper Solution - Horse Weight Gain Supplements from SmartPak Equine Although If you want to get it in buckets I have found it cheaper at other stores(both online and in store)
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Cool Calories has not been proven harmful to horses in any study or article I have read.

As for weight gain, it worked wonders for my OTTB, who was a body score of 2. Cool Calories has not been proven or speculated upon as being unsafe in any way....what is bad for humans is not necessarily bad for other species, so why mention it.

FYI, Cool Calories has been endorsed by Amy Tryon and Bob Avila....

I decided to give it a try if they are willing to put their names on it, maybe it works.....and it did.!!!!!

Plumped our boy up nicely. AND it didn't make him one bit "hot" like that nasty sweet feed did. He was a raging lunatic when we fed him that....and any calories he was SUPPOSED to get from it, he just burned off from running about madly for half an hour, bucking and rearing.....

We also had NO luck with Weight Builder....

Our magic bullets were Cool Calories and Probiotics.
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Cool Calories has not been proven harmful to horses in any study or article I have read.

As for weight gain, it worked wonders for my OTTB, who was a body score of 2. Cool Calories has not been proven or speculated upon as being unsafe in any way....what is bad for humans is not necessarily bad for other species, so why mention it.

FYI, Cool Calories has been endorsed by Amy Tryon and Bob Avila....

I decided to give it a try if they are willing to put their names on it, maybe it works.....and it did.!!!!!

Plumped our boy up nicely. AND it didn't make him one bit "hot" like that nasty sweet feed did. He was a raging lunatic when we fed him that....and any calories he was SUPPOSED to get from it, he just burned off from running about madly for half an hour, bucking and rearing.....

We also had NO luck with Weight Builder....

Our magic bullets were Cool Calories and Probiotics.

I only mentioned it so that the original poster can do research and decided for herself. Hydrogenated fats are known to be harmful to humans and I believe that they even cause caner(although I'm not 100% sure on that). Do some research on it and see for yourself. I'm saying anyone should or shouldn't use the product. All I'm saying is do your research and make sure that what your feeding is healthy for your horse. I personally don't feel comfortable feeding my horse something that is known to be bad for humans
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Horses and humans are nowhere near the same beast and do not get the same problems or have the same reactions to things like that. And EVEREYTHING causes cancer as we all know lol...

I would not sweat it and use the Cool Calories myself unless and until there is some hard evidence that is is bad for horses. I am using it and it is making a difference. I am giving 3 of the little scoops twice a day with his liquid joint supplement to bind it to the feed. I like to use something to bind it to the feed. Its like little granules and not really a powder.
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post #30 of 30 Old 07-05-2011, 01:41 AM Thread Starter
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My mom came over today and after having gone to get the horses with me in May She said that they all look fatter to her. Everyone looks ALOT fatter except Kinzie the bay mare (the one the post is about) so I've ordered tons of stuff from smart packs several hundred $$ worth and I'm anxiously awaiting it's arrival :)I want to take pics and post a monthly diary so we can see what things or thing affects her weight gain the most. Thanks so much to everyone who took time to post their experiences with skinny horses. ALL my dogs and chickens and cows are in good weight and I hate that this horse looks starved, I always feel like everyone drives by thinking "Man they need to feed those horses more" LOL truly no one probably gives it two thoughts its just me... but I want the horses to be healthy and happy.
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