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  • How to correct over-reaching in the barefoot horses?
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    01-07-2010, 02:58 PM
  #11
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Do you by chance do your own natural barefoot trims?
     
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    01-07-2010, 06:45 PM
  #12
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Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
Do you by chance do your own natural barefoot trims?
Yes, I do my own trimming and have for years, but I was taught by a couple of really good farriers. Being where I was when I was growing up, it was almost necessary to learn, because you weren't always guarenteed to find a good farrier that wasn't 200 miles away...When I DID find one, I asked him if he could teach me how to do my own horses, should he not continue, or moved...turns out 2 years later he did move, to start a new business in a different state! Later on, I wound up boarding my horse at a farrier's house, and she continued some of what I needed refinement on; she even gave me new tools!
     
    01-07-2010, 06:54 PM
  #13
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Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
Over-reaching is a balance issue, mostly. My horse has a very large over stride in all three gaits and when he was younger tended to pull shoes and clip himself. As his training has progressed and his muscling has improved, he no longer over reaches and clips himself, even in the field. Where he used to have bell boots on, now he does not need them because he is in better balance.
My advice is to do a lot of dressage with an experienced coach. If you don't have the means for that then yes the farrier can help, and bell boots are a viable option in the meantime.
Thank you, I actually hadn't thought about her being out of balance so much, but it would make total sense; I got her three months ago, and she is just now becoming really comfortable doing draw rein and syrcingle work. Prior to me getting her she had been out of work, and had never been worked in ways that help develop the topline and balance.

The more I think on it I am also wondering if she clipped herself when she was laying down (she always has a nightly snooze)...so maybe she clipped herself then.

I don't and probably won't shoe her, for those who suggested it; I could afford it, but I don't see that as the most viable option, especially if she winds up ripping them out all the time; I am just now getting the last of her nail\shoe caused cracks she had from when I first got her. (she was shoed for much of her 'adult' life, til the previous owners bought her, and they only had her for a month, and didn't take care of her feet to get rid of the results of the shoes.) I'm not saying that shoes don't help some horses, but for my girl, who now has really tough feet, as opposed to being ouchy even on gravel, I probably won't go back if I don't have to.

And no, I don't want this to turn out to be a 'shoe vs barefoot thread either'...that wasn't my original intent...
     
    01-07-2010, 06:56 PM
  #14
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There are quite a few horses at the barn who have Bell Boots left on 24/7. I see no harm with that, so long as you clean under them on a daily basis.

I have had quite a few horses in my past who over reached, and what I did to alleviate the issue, was by having my Farrier "ROCKER" their back toes. Helps immensely :) Nelson is an over reacher as well, and I have my Farrier Rocker his back toes, and he does not over reach to the point of knicking his fronts, and I haven't had to use Bell Boots in over a year.
     
    01-08-2010, 12:45 AM
  #15
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^ Yeah, I do roll her toes already, but may need to do a bit more, or more often and see what happens; I've not noticed her clip herself while on the longe line for a while, but she's also in a collected frame...it's in the pasture when she runs around like a total diva...head in the air, tail flaunting the poor quarter horses (She's part walker so can REALLY flaunt it! Haha), and totally uncollected, and thus unbalanced...but man can she MOVE!!! Hahaha! She puts the 19 mo old babies to shame when they get running!!!!

She was so cute this afternoon when I went to change her dressing, she just kind of held it up like "here it is change it!" Lol! I can only imagine what she'd do if she injured herself even more...probably be asking for martinis and chocolate!
     
    01-08-2010, 12:49 AM
  #16
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You might want to have someone come out and make sure your getting teh angles and the breakover correct. Most interference can be fixed with proper shoeing (or trimming).
     
    01-08-2010, 01:01 AM
  #17
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There is a guy who does come out (He did the yearlings last year a couple times) periodically just to see the other horses, and he says everyone looks great...he's done farrier work longer than I've been alive, and I've seen some of his horses, so I do trust his judgement. I should clarify, though, He works with other staff in the school I work at, so that's the main reason he comes out. He would trim if he felt the need too, as his services are voluntary, not paid; we are a non profit school.

He doesn't think she needs shoes to correct the over reaching, because he saw the shape of her feet when I first got her, and he's seen them as of current, and he said that she should get better in another couple of months; I'm still working at getting rid of some of the flaring, and toe length.
     
    01-08-2010, 01:03 AM
  #18
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Maybe you could post some pics.
     
    01-08-2010, 01:08 AM
  #19
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I thought from the OP that you had seen her clip herself. It could have been completely unrelated to gait or hooves. She may have slipped and stepped on herself or it could have been another horse that did it.
     
    01-08-2010, 01:39 AM
  #20
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I've seen her clip herself, well, heard it, in the pasture, and when I first got her, when I worked her on the lunge line...She's never clipped herself badly prior to her ouchy yesterday; she's not penned with the other two horses at night, and only for an hour or so each day, as I am letting the main pasture rest for the winter, rather than have the horses on it all the time. She likes to lay down at night, and occasionally during the day, so I really wonder if she nicked herself then when she went to get up, or something. I didn't see her clip herself yesterday, I just found the result...haha. Oh well, she's got booties on for now.

I will try to remember to get some pics...
     

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